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StR

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Re: Writing new mails
« Reply #15 on: February 05, 2016, 04:52:39 am »
It's a brave new world that revolves around the loss of privacy. Disturbing - but largely unavoidable short of living under a rock.
It's a world where we are all the product.
Indeed, it's hard to avoid it completely, but one can minimize certain things.
And, unfortunately, in most cases, you cannot even buy your way out of it (i.e. pay and have complete control over your information.)

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Re: Writing new mails
« Reply #16 on: February 05, 2016, 02:45:41 pm »
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And with respect to e-mails, I would prefer if the mail app had its own database of contacts that wouldn't disclose information to other apps for the reason described above and a few others. But I understand that I am in a overwhelming minority  with this ::) , as most people do not understand and do not care for their privacy and prefer "convenience". And thus, it would be hard to expect Kostya (or for that matter anybody else) implementing a separate address book.

+1 for that. I think the same like you. The 2nd thing as i wrote i prefer seperate database coz i dont like mess on my main android contact book. To be 100% sure im not here to complain for that app, i will still use it! Thanks for replies

Kostya Vasilyev

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Re: Writing new mails
« Reply #17 on: February 05, 2016, 09:11:11 pm »
Re: dont like mess on my main android contact book

When AquaMail "auto-adds" contacts, it creates a separate group just for that, and that group is marked as "invisible".
Creating debug logs for diagnostics: https://www.aqua-mail.com/troubleshooting/

The official FAQ: https://www.aqua-mail.com/faq/

Лог-файлы для диагностики: https://www.aqua-mail.com/ru/troubleshooting/

Вопросы и ответы: https://www.aqua-mail.com/ru/faq/

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Re: Writing new mails
« Reply #18 on: February 05, 2016, 09:41:56 pm »
Re: dont like mess on my main android contact book

When AquaMail "auto-adds" contacts, it creates a separate group just for that, and that group is marked as "invisible".

Not at all. Just now i have wrote new mail with that option. As you can see it is visible in contacts.

Kostya Vasilyev

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Re: Writing new mails
« Reply #19 on: February 05, 2016, 10:05:16 pm »
         if (mGroupRowId <= 0) {
            ContentValues groupValues = new ContentValues();
            groupValues.put(Groups.TITLE, GROUP_NAME);
            groupValues.put(Groups.GROUP_VISIBLE, "0");
            groupValues.put(Groups.ACCOUNT_NAME, mAccount.name);
            groupValues.put(Groups.ACCOUNT_TYPE, mAccount.type);
            groupValues.put(Groups.NOTES, mContext.getString(R.string.contacts_group_notes));

            Uri groupUri = cr.insert(Groups.CONTENT_URI, groupValues);
            if (groupUri != null) {
               mGroupRowId = ContentUris.parseId(groupUri);
               MyLog.msg(MyLog.FEAT_CONTACTS, "Added AquaMail group as id = %d", mGroupRowId);
            }
         }


Your screenshot looks like a Samsung.

There is a way (in their Contacts app) to select which groups are visible -- apparently it doesn't simply use the standard value I'm setting.

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For this, please open on the Samsung Galaxy S6 the menu and then the Contacts app. In this select in the overview of your contacts at the upper right corner the button "More". A window will appear where the "Settings" entry must be tapped now. In the next sub-menu, please tap the menu item "Contacts to display". You can now select from which location the contacts should be displayed in the contacts list. For the Google Contacts highlight your Gmail address.

Source: http://www.solvemix.com/index.php/android-smartphones/656-samsung-galaxy-s6-only-display-contacts-stored-in-google-account
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The "contacts to display" mentioned above has a "customized list" option where you can select individual groups -- just turn off "AquaMail" there.
Creating debug logs for diagnostics: https://www.aqua-mail.com/troubleshooting/

The official FAQ: https://www.aqua-mail.com/faq/

Лог-файлы для диагностики: https://www.aqua-mail.com/ru/troubleshooting/

Вопросы и ответы: https://www.aqua-mail.com/ru/faq/

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Re: Writing new mails
« Reply #20 on: February 05, 2016, 11:56:47 pm »
         if (mGroupRowId <= 0) {
            ContentValues groupValues = new ContentValues();
            groupValues.put(Groups.TITLE, GROUP_NAME);
            groupValues.put(Groups.GROUP_VISIBLE, "0");
            groupValues.put(Groups.ACCOUNT_NAME, mAccount.name);
            groupValues.put(Groups.ACCOUNT_TYPE, mAccount.type);
            groupValues.put(Groups.NOTES, mContext.getString(R.string.contacts_group_notes));

            Uri groupUri = cr.insert(Groups.CONTENT_URI, groupValues);
            if (groupUri != null) {
               mGroupRowId = ContentUris.parseId(groupUri);
               MyLog.msg(MyLog.FEAT_CONTACTS, "Added AquaMail group as id = %d", mGroupRowId);
            }
         }


Your screenshot looks like a Samsung.

There is a way (in their Contacts app) to select which groups are visible -- apparently it doesn't simply use the standard value I'm setting.

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For this, please open on the Samsung Galaxy S6 the menu and then the Contacts app. In this select in the overview of your contacts at the upper right corner the button "More". A window will appear where the "Settings" entry must be tapped now. In the next sub-menu, please tap the menu item "Contacts to display". You can now select from which location the contacts should be displayed in the contacts list. For the Google Contacts highlight your Gmail address.

Source: http://www.solvemix.com/index.php/android-smartphones/656-samsung-galaxy-s6-only-display-contacts-stored-in-google-account
Android Smartphones
© Solvemix - quick tips, tricks and solutions

The "contacts to display" mentioned above has a "customized list" option where you can select individual groups -- just turn off "AquaMail" there.

Thanks! It would work but Aquamail still is adding new contacts to group: Aquamail and My contacts. How should i disable adding to My contacts group?

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Re: Writing new mails
« Reply #21 on: February 06, 2016, 12:09:50 am »
It does not add to My Contacts, actually, only to its own group. Let me try on a non-Samsung device to see what happens.
Creating debug logs for diagnostics: https://www.aqua-mail.com/troubleshooting/

The official FAQ: https://www.aqua-mail.com/faq/

Лог-файлы для диагностики: https://www.aqua-mail.com/ru/troubleshooting/

Вопросы и ответы: https://www.aqua-mail.com/ru/faq/

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Re: Writing new mails
« Reply #22 on: February 06, 2016, 12:21:27 am »
Yep, it happened on a Sony device with 5.1, which is less likely than a Samsung to "be doing something strange".

I think My Contacts is marked with "AutoAdd" which means "add all new contacts to this group".

Darn! What a pain!
Creating debug logs for diagnostics: https://www.aqua-mail.com/troubleshooting/

The official FAQ: https://www.aqua-mail.com/faq/

Лог-файлы для диагностики: https://www.aqua-mail.com/ru/troubleshooting/

Вопросы и ответы: https://www.aqua-mail.com/ru/faq/

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Re: Writing new mails
« Reply #23 on: February 06, 2016, 07:12:28 am »
Yep, it happened on a Sony device with 5.1, which is less likely than a Samsung to "be doing something strange".

I think My Contacts is marked with "AutoAdd" which means "add all new contacts to this group".

Darn! What a pain!

Now i can understand what you are talking about. Its not fault Aquamail, its fault of Android 5.1;/

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Re: Writing new mails
« Reply #24 on: February 06, 2016, 06:54:07 pm »
Maybe not 5.1, maybe earlier versions too.

When I originally wrote this, the latest Android was 2.1 or so.

I'll try to think about it to find a solution.
Creating debug logs for diagnostics: https://www.aqua-mail.com/troubleshooting/

The official FAQ: https://www.aqua-mail.com/faq/

Лог-файлы для диагностики: https://www.aqua-mail.com/ru/troubleshooting/

Вопросы и ответы: https://www.aqua-mail.com/ru/faq/

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Re: Writing new mails
« Reply #25 on: February 07, 2016, 10:39:05 pm »
Creating debug logs for diagnostics: https://www.aqua-mail.com/troubleshooting/

The official FAQ: https://www.aqua-mail.com/faq/

Лог-файлы для диагностики: https://www.aqua-mail.com/ru/troubleshooting/

Вопросы и ответы: https://www.aqua-mail.com/ru/faq/

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Re: Writing new mails
« Reply #26 on: February 07, 2016, 11:06:25 pm »
Maybe not 5.1, maybe earlier versions too.

When I originally wrote this, the latest Android was 2.1 or so.

I'll try to think about it to find a solution.
Grabbed a 4.4.4 device (AOSP) and enabled auto-add (never used it before). Test contact added to "other contacts" (Google terminology) but not AquaMail group. AM group was created but remained unpopulated. 1.6.1.0-dev4.4. Haven't tried the latest build yet; happy to do so if helpful.

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Re: Writing new mails
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Re: Writing new mails
« Reply #28 on: February 09, 2016, 11:57:51 pm »
@Davey126

Definitely working for me here, checked with 4.4 too (although not AOSP).

I've noticed before that a just created group needs some time before it's usable.

So if you enabled this setting and then sent your test message immediately -- maybe you'll want to try again now.

@remek

Good to know, thanks!
Creating debug logs for diagnostics: https://www.aqua-mail.com/troubleshooting/

The official FAQ: https://www.aqua-mail.com/faq/

Лог-файлы для диагностики: https://www.aqua-mail.com/ru/troubleshooting/

Вопросы и ответы: https://www.aqua-mail.com/ru/faq/

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Re: Writing new mails
« Reply #29 on: February 10, 2016, 03:00:29 am »
I've noticed before that a just created group needs some time before it's usable.

So if you enabled this setting and then sent your test message immediately -- maybe you'll want to try again now.
You're right - it worked! Dropped a second test email address in the previously established AquaMail group. Good to know!