Author Topic: Version 1.6.1.0-dev4.7 - "work in progress"  (Read 7772 times)

Kostya Vasilyev

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Version 1.6.1.0-dev4.7 - "work in progress"
« on: February 07, 2016, 10:38:23 pm »
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+ Back to "autocomplete after 2 characters, not 1" on the compose screen.

+ "Recent" addresses (recipients) on the compose screen, i.e. from actual recent messages (app settings -> Contacts).

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+ Воврат к "автодополнение после 2 символов, не 1" на экране написания сообщений.

+ "Недавние" адреса (получатели) при написании сообщений, то есть из недавних сообщений (настройки программы - Контакты).   
« Last Edit: February 09, 2016, 12:29:09 am by Kostya Vasilyev, Aqua Mail »
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Re: Version 1.6.1.0-dev4.7 - "work in progress"
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2016, 01:28:34 am »
>> Back to "autocomplete after 2 characters, not 1" on the compose screen.

Yes, good desicion.

Respectfully disagree. See my last argument in the latest post in "bugs" forum. (Thread on the "absence of ...")

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Re: Version 1.6.1.0-dev4.7 - "work in progress"
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2016, 09:13:40 am »
>> Back to "autocomplete after 2 characters, not 1" on the compose screen.

Yes, good desicion.

Respectfully disagree. See my last argument in the latest post in "bugs" forum. (Thread on the "absence of ...")
http://www.aqua-mail.com/forum/index.php?topic=4402.msg24234#msg24234

Kostya Vasilyev

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Re: Version 1.6.1.0-dev4.7 - "work in progress"
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2016, 07:46:00 pm »
Re: I see that it's enabled by default, meaning that the user will get all junk mail addresses here, even though they are in Spam folders

Actually, spam (and deleted) folders are not scanned for addresses.

But you're right, I'm not sure if this should be enabled by default.

Users!!!


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Re: Version 1.6.1.0-dev4.7 - "work in progress"
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2016, 08:39:38 pm »
Re: I see that it's enabled by default, meaning that the user will get all junk mail addresses here, even though they are in Spam folders

Actually, spam (and deleted) folders are not scanned for addresses.

But you're right, I'm not sure if this should be enabled by default.

Users!!!
Yes, No, Yes, No, Yes, No, Yes, No, Yes, No,...

Since Spam and Deleted folders are not scanned for recent addresses I would suggest:

-> Yes,... should be enabled by default.

Kostya Vasilyev

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Re: Version 1.6.1.0-dev4.7 - "work in progress"
« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2016, 08:44:33 pm »
And where is the gentleman who recently brought up recent addresses and how they get saved into "My Contacts" -- "creating a mess"?

Hellloooo!

Are you still with us?

Have you tried this new feature which (I hope) provides what you wanted, and without creating this horrible mess?
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Re: Version 1.6.1.0-dev4.7 - "work in progress"
« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2016, 09:57:41 pm »
Re: fragile when options asked by one specific user (often geek) do not meet the standard average users way of using it.

+100500

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Re: Version 1.6.1.0-dev4.7 - "work in progress"
« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2016, 10:10:20 pm »
Re: fragile when options asked by one specific user (often geek) do not meet the standard average users way of using it.

+100500
@Paris Geek + @Kostya:
I can understand your concerns for an average user and therefore it might be useful to disable this option by default.
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Re: Version 1.6.1.0-dev4.7 - "work in progress"
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2016, 10:14:25 pm »
When this feature is released, I'll update the FAQ (it has a section about contacts).
Creating debug logs for diagnostics: https://www.aqua-mail.com/troubleshooting/

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Re: Version 1.6.1.0-dev4.7 - "work in progress"
« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2016, 11:51:13 pm »
Re: I see that it's enabled by default, meaning that the user will get all junk mail addresses here, even though they are in Spam folders

Actually, spam (and deleted) folders are not scanned for addresses.

But you're right, I'm not sure if this should be enabled by default.

Users!!!
Kostya, let me answer your inquiry.

Personally, I wouldn't want that to be enabled by default. With some of the accounts, I am getting so much "noise", that it would overwhelm this feature.
(And in 1-2 accounts, for convenience, I mapped a folder where I save all this noise as "archive", so, I don't want those messages to be analyzed either.)

If I were making the design decision, I'd do this "harvesting" only from the recent "Sent" messages. And then if the incoming message is recent, I can always find it and go from there.

But I can see that some other people might have a different modus operandi.

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Re: Version 1.6.1.0-dev4.7 - "work in progress"
« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2016, 11:58:43 pm »
When this feature is released, I'll update the FAQ (it has a section about contacts).

HAR!
As we had discussed it in these forums, many users don't even know Where The FAQ is...


When a spam message arrives, it rarely goes directly to Spam folder by itself. Often it will land in the Inbox, and the average user will ignore it, or maybe delete it, and if the user gets tens of spams daily in their inbox, this user will probably leave some of them in the inbox... 

That's an excellent example. In a similar situation, I once had almost sent a sensitive message to a spoofed address used in a SPAM message: Thunderbird offered me that address, and alphabetically, it was earlier than the real one.



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Another situation where the discussed option should be off: when the user sets by himself filters to move spams or annoying messages or unimportant messages (advertisements) to a separate folder. This user will sync this folder, just to check from tile to time that some important message had not landed there.

That's very similar to what I described in the message I just posted.
"Great minds think alike!"  8)

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Re: Version 1.6.1.0-dev4.7 - "work in progress"
« Reply #11 on: February 09, 2016, 12:27:45 am »
StR - thanks for the feedback.

Now that the setting is off by default, I expect it should not do so much harm.

On the other hand, there are users who want this "recent addresses" feature, and presumably will use it -- so wrt. to Sent vs. all folders, I'll go with their feedback, from actual use.

PS - I think it all goes back to Samsung's mail app...
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