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1.7.0.45-dev - "work in progress" - Google Play "beta"
« on: December 01, 2016, 04:57:45 pm »
https://www.aqua-mail.com/download/AquaMail-market-1.7.0-45-dev-70a312aa5688.apk

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+ Push mail for Exchange. Requires Google Play Services. AquaMail Pro version only.

+ Android 7: multi-window support, the app automatically switches between two panel and single panel mode.

+ Search on settings screen.

+ Adding attachments (from other apps) on the compose screen has been redone. 

+ Message view -> Menu -> send to Google Translate.

+ An easier way to swipe for commands in message lists: app settings -> swiping -> sticky icons.

+ Android 7: now possible to turn off the "reply" icon in notifications: settings -> message notifications -> action buttons.

+ New window layout: settings -> look and feel -> enable "two panel UI" and set "portrait mode" below to "single panel, full screen".

+ Settings screens on tablets now use a side by side two panel layout.

+ Per-account setting for "priority by default" when composing a message.

+ Per-account setting for "CC to self" when composing (like the existing "BCC to self").

+ Exchange push will detect when blocked by server.

+ App settings has a new section with a list of recently changed settings items.

+ Settings -> look and feel -> "delete old cached attachments".

+ The account list panel can have text labels, settings -> look and feel.

+ Settings -> message list -> can turn off dividers (between messages)

+ "Push on WiFi only" moved from app settings to account "options and folders".

+ Added "unread count badge on app icon" for Huawei (5.0+)

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+ Пуш почта для Exchange. Требует Google Play Services. Только в Pro версии программы.

+ Андроид 7: поддержка много-оконного режима, программа сама переключается между одной и двумя панелями информации.

+ Поиск на экране настроек.

+ Новый процесс прикрепления вложений (на экране написания).

+ Меню при отображении сообщений - перевести через Google Translate.

+ Новый способ выбрать команду жестом в списках сообщений: настройки - жесты - выбор отдельным нажатием.

+ Андроид 7: теперь можно отключить иконку "ответить" в уведомлениях: настройки - уведомления о сообщениях - кнопки действий.

+ Новая раскладка интерфейса: настройки - интерфейс - включить "две панели" и установить "режим в вертикальной" на "полный экран".

+ Экраны настроек на планшетах теперь отображаются в две панели.

+ Настройка на уровне учётной записи для "высокого приоритета по умолчанию" при написании сообщений.

+ Настройка на уровне учётной записи для "CC себе" (как уже было для BCC) при написании.

+ Пуш почта для Exchange обнаруживает и уведомляет когда блокируется на сервере.

+ В настройках программы появился раздел со списком пунктов которые недавно меняли.

+ Настройки - интерфейс - удалять старые кешированные вложения.

+ Панель переключения учётных записей может показывать их названия, настройки - интерфейс.

+ Настройка "Пуш почта только через WiFi" переместилась на уровень учётной записи, "доп. настройки и папки".

+ Настройки - список сообщений - можно отключать разделители (между сообщениями).

+ Добавлен "счётчик на икноке" для Huawei (5.0+).
« Last Edit: December 01, 2016, 05:32:31 pm by Kostya Vasilyev, Aqua Mail »

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Re: 1.7.0.45-dev - "work in progress" - Google Play "beta"
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2016, 12:09:31 am »
Just updated to this version. Getting crashes constantly... every 30 seconds or so. Crashes even when AM not actually open in foreground.

I returned a crash report for you.

Was going to uninstall and reinstall, but cant figure out how to backup all my settings (and dont want to lose/re-download all my downloaded emails either)

A reboot didn't solve it unfortunately.

Sent from my SM-G935F
« Last Edit: December 02, 2016, 01:10:45 am by iceman.jkh »

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Re: 1.7.0.45-dev - "work in progress" - Google Play "beta"
« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2016, 12:00:42 am »
Yes, this is a bug, I'm looking into it, no fix yet (sorry).

You can "opt out" of the Play "beta"

Or downgrade in-place to this earlier non-"Google Play beta" version:

https://www.aqua-mail.com/download/AquaMail-market-1.7.0-12-dev-6faf8727019e.apk

Creating debug logs for diagnostics: https://www.aqua-mail.com/troubleshooting/

The official FAQ: https://www.aqua-mail.com/faq/

Лог-файлы для диагностики: https://www.aqua-mail.com/ru/troubleshooting/

Вопросы и ответы: https://www.aqua-mail.com/ru/faq/

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Re: 1.7.0.45-dev - "work in progress" - Google Play "beta"
« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2016, 01:20:13 am »
New build with an actual fix for the above issue:

http://www.aqua-mail.com/forum/index.php?topic=5199.0
Creating debug logs for diagnostics: https://www.aqua-mail.com/troubleshooting/

The official FAQ: https://www.aqua-mail.com/faq/

Лог-файлы для диагностики: https://www.aqua-mail.com/ru/troubleshooting/

Вопросы и ответы: https://www.aqua-mail.com/ru/faq/

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Re: 1.7.0.45-dev - "work in progress" - Google Play "beta"
« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2016, 11:56:01 am »
New build with an actual fix for the above issue:

http://www.aqua-mail.com/forum/index.php?topic=5199.0 [nofollow]
Thanks. Working again.

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German translation issues in 1.7.x
« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2016, 05:39:40 pm »
Hi, since translations threads are closed, I'd like to give a feedback here in this thread.

Kostya wrote before, that translations were built from scratch up, also german. In result, on the one hand we see a better grammar now, thank you. On the other hand, there is some terminology, which is not common in german software language, and there is at least one bigger issue. Let me explanate two points:

1. The term "folder" is now translated everywhere as "Verzeichnis". This is not an appropriate way to do.

Ususally in software translations "folder" is translated (as in 1.6.x) as "Ordner". This expression is also used in Windows and well known by all people using german language.

The term "directory" (known from DOS, Linux etc.) usually is translated as "Verzeichnis". There are a lot of people, who don't know, what "Verzeichnis" means in technical way of meaning.

Furthermore:
- "Inbox" is translated as "E-Mail-Eingang". Usual translation is "Posteingang" known and used by other software
- The previous "Smart Box" is now translated as "Smart-Verzeichnis". Funny.

2. Wrong translation string: In account settings you will find in 1.7.x the item "Remove deleted messages" with explanation:

"Remove local copies of messages no longer on the server" (screenshot 1: original english)

This means that deleting a message on server will delete the local copy.

This is translated to a strange thing, almost the contrary:
"Lokale Nachrichten-Kopien nicht mehr vom Server entfernen" (see screenshot 2: wrong german 1.7.x)

This means in english:  "Do not remove local copies of messages from the server anymore"

In version 1.6.x it was translated in an appropriate way:
"Vom Server gelöschte Nachrichten auch lokal entfernen" (see screenshot 3: correct german 1.6.x)

I'm afraid that users will be irritated by new translations.

Maybe with support of MobiySystems it's now possible to pay a pro as translator now?
And last question: Where is user mikeone, who did many translation before in AquaMail?




 

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Re: 1.7.0.45-dev - "work in progress" - Google Play "beta"
« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2016, 11:02:47 pm »
#1
I totally agree with @nica's comments. His objection is entirely reasoning:
• The term "folder" should translated to "Ordner" (not: "Verzeichnis")

#2
Thanks to @nica for pointing out this obviously wrong translation:
• It's really necessary to return to the previous translation; "Vom Server gelöschte Nachrichten auch lokal entfernen"


... and to your last question: I'm still alive  8)

« Last Edit: December 04, 2016, 12:11:35 am by mikeone »

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Re: 1.7.0.45-dev - "work in progress" - Google Play "beta"
« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2016, 11:22:26 pm »
Hi, since translations threads are closed, I'd like to give a feedback here in this thread.

It is really a pity that the area "translation" were closed. Especially since there have been always discussed very useful advices and suggestions.

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Re: 1.7.0.45-dev - "work in progress" - Google Play "beta"
« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2016, 12:26:59 am »
@Paris Geek + @nica

All your comments are absolutely true.

It seems that MobiSystems has worsened some translations... probably not limited to Arabic, French and German.

A pity for the many work of the community in recent years. Sorry to say that :-[
« Last Edit: December 04, 2016, 12:36:05 am by mikeone »

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Re: 1.7.0.45-dev - "work in progress" - Google Play "beta"
« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2016, 12:34:55 am »
... and to your last question: I'm still alive  8)
I'm relieved to hear that. :)

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Re: 1.7.0.45-dev - "work in progress" - Google Play "beta"
« Reply #10 on: December 04, 2016, 07:42:59 am »
A pity for the many work of the community in recent years. Sorry to say that :-[

I feel the pain and frustration. My personal contribution to the translations was minimal, and I am using English in Aquamail, so, I am not seeing all the awkwardness. But if I were as involved as some of the people here, including @mikeone, and my work would've been thrown away and replaced with some mediocre version (and especially if I would be facing that mediocrity on a daily basis), I'd be pissed.
On another hand, I understand the dilemma related to copyrights that MobiSystems was facing. (In my work and in my hobbies, I've been dealing with copyright issues quite a bit.) And I understand that they preferred to play safe.

As for the quality of the translations they added, - I also realize that it could be tricky. On one hand, if the company doesn't have in-house translators, getting a quality translation is quite expensive, and the revenue has to cover that.
On another hand, it might be actually difficult to find a good translator in the specific technical area. And it is hard to evaluate the quality of the particular translator if you don't know that language yourself.

I think MobiSystems management is smart (since they've chosen this particular program as their target). So, I hope they are listening to the users' feedback, and will take that into account...

 

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Re: 1.7.0.45-dev - "work in progress" - Google Play "beta"
« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2016, 08:38:19 pm »
Good points, let me clarify a few things.

1 - Old translations: it's all about "can MobiSystems use them legally or not".

Since these were done before MS entered the picture, it would have been equally bad to just use them without asking.

Some were done by one person only, so it was easy to send an email and get the permission (or not).

Others were done by several persons, so I wasn't sure I'd be able to track down everyone involved.

German fell into this latter category. So, nothing personal against @mikeone or @nica, I just could't remember if there had been perhaps someone else contributing, and if so, what his/her items had been and how to contact them (but I had vague memories that there had been, even more than one person).

2 - The *old* translation sections are closed to avoid confusion.

But anyone is welcome to post suggestions for his/her language, in that same section.

I've tried to explain that in the old "translations how-to" sticky, guess it went unnoticed, here is a new one:

http://www.aqua-mail.com/forum/index.php?topic=2214.435

3 - The new translations are all done by professional translators, but they don't have any experience with this particular app, and don't use it themselves.

This is unfortunate, but quite expected, but still unfortunate.

4 - Polish in particular I didn't get the permission for, and it was not submitted to be re-done (unintended, a mistake).

It will return, fully redone.
Creating debug logs for diagnostics: https://www.aqua-mail.com/troubleshooting/

The official FAQ: https://www.aqua-mail.com/faq/

Лог-файлы для диагностики: https://www.aqua-mail.com/ru/troubleshooting/

Вопросы и ответы: https://www.aqua-mail.com/ru/faq/

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Re: 1.7.0.45-dev - "work in progress" - Google Play "beta"
« Reply #12 on: December 04, 2016, 08:52:45 pm »
The new translations are all done by professional translators, but they don't have any experience with this particular app
We realized that.

But anyone is welcome to post suggestions for his/her language, in that same section.

So I copied my post as new thread here:

German translation issues version 1.7.x

Let's see what will happen :)