Author Topic: Version 1.7.0-12-dev - "work in progress", not in Google Play  (Read 18811 times)

p50kombi

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Re: Version 1.7.0-12-dev - "work in progress", not in Google Play
« Reply #30 on: November 21, 2016, 05:56:05 pm »
Hi, I am new to Aquamail after having shifted around quite a few email apps.
I'm always interested in testing latest builds and trying to contribute as much as I can.
All previous apps I've used have had no issues showing unread counter badges on my HTC 10 using Sense.
Is this something I can switch on somewhere as I can't seem to find it anywhere.

Thanks, J

In addition, have you considered releasing this via playstore as an alpha built? I know there's a state before beta which you can let people into.
Not sure if you want to keep it on this forum though as that would probably be easier for you to track comments :)

Kostya Vasilyev

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Re: Version 1.7.0-12-dev - "work in progress", not in Google Play
« Reply #31 on: November 21, 2016, 10:32:29 pm »
Re: All previous apps I've used have had no issues showing unread counter badges on my HTC 10 using Sense.

HTC does not document unread badges. They document all kinds of useless crap, but not this.

I have in the past tried whatever unofficial "HTC unread count badge" code was floating around on the Internet, and it had strange home screen repaint issues on the HTC devices I had back then.

Re: alpha in Google Play

No, not really. For me, the existing process (internal -> forum -> Play beta -> Play release) makes more sense.
Creating debug logs for diagnostics: https://www.aqua-mail.com/troubleshooting/

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Re: Version 1.7.0-12-dev - "work in progress", not in Google Play
« Reply #32 on: November 22, 2016, 02:14:13 am »
FWIW  I am using Nova Launcher with Tesla Unread, on MM 6.0.1 on two different devices, a Note 4 (custom TouchWiz ROM) and a Nexus 6P (PureNexus).  On both of these devices my unread badge works properly with AquaMail.


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Re: Version 1.7.0-12-dev - "work in progress", not in Google Play
« Reply #33 on: November 22, 2016, 10:41:36 am »
I wonder how other apps do it.
Got so many text and mail apps that work properly.

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Re: Version 1.7.0-12-dev - "work in progress", not in Google Play
« Reply #34 on: November 22, 2016, 10:44:27 am »

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Re: Version 1.7.0-12-dev - "work in progress", not in Google Play
« Reply #35 on: November 22, 2016, 10:13:40 pm »
Re: Nova Launcher with Tesla Unread

Yes, the developer of Nova has documented how apps can "talk to" this launcher, it's actually in Tesla Unread.

Re: Have you tried this one? https://github.com/leolin310148/ShortcutBadger

Yep, that's the one.
Creating debug logs for diagnostics: https://www.aqua-mail.com/troubleshooting/

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Re: Version 1.7.0-12-dev - "work in progress", not in Google Play
« Reply #36 on: November 23, 2016, 12:41:44 am »
well, it says it works on the 10 :) as he tested it on there
Sure you can't sneak it in for me ;)

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Re: Version 1.7.0-12-dev - "work in progress", not in Google Play
« Reply #37 on: November 23, 2016, 12:46:32 am »
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well, it says it works on the 10 :) as he tested it on there
Sure you can't sneak it in for me ;)

No, I can not "sneak this in for you", because:

We already it "doesn't work" on the 9 -- even though to someone without "inside knowledge" of HTC models and their code, a 9 is no different from a 10 or an 8, same Android versions even it seems.

And now let's imagine that on the 9, it just "doesn't work", but on some other phone -- 8 1/2 or 11 or 10 on Verizon or 9 on AT&T or the Korean version of the 8 -- it causes something bad? Launcher flashing a repaint (like it did on my HTC One Max), or a crash?

Basically with the "does not work on the 9" I'm even more uncomfortable about putting this into a prod version.

And look at Xiaomi and Lenovo support in that library -- first added, then disabled as "not working". Not good, not ready for prod use.

Can phone manufacturers finally get it together and start documenting this stuff?

Not "our new exciting SDK for working with the laser focus" or "our wonderful new feature, the curved screen and you can show a dinky little icon there", but things that users actually want?

Rhetorical of course. Getting off the soapbox now.
« Last Edit: November 23, 2016, 12:48:09 am by Kostya Vasilyev, Aqua Mail »
Creating debug logs for diagnostics: https://www.aqua-mail.com/troubleshooting/

The official FAQ: https://www.aqua-mail.com/faq/

Лог-файлы для диагностики: https://www.aqua-mail.com/ru/troubleshooting/

Вопросы и ответы: https://www.aqua-mail.com/ru/faq/

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Re: Version 1.7.0-12-dev - "work in progress", not in Google Play
« Reply #38 on: November 23, 2016, 12:48:49 am »
point taken, shame as I invested in the app assuming it would do that, teaches me a little lesson :)
I'll keep hunting, I got quite a few acquaintances in the HTC coding world, if I dig anything up, I'll let you know.

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Re: Version 1.7.0-12-dev - "work in progress", not in Google Play
« Reply #39 on: November 23, 2016, 12:53:19 am »
Re: point taken, shame as I invested in the app assuming it would do that, teaches me a little lesson :)

Well, sure, but no need to make it personal or feel sad.

This is one feature that's standard on iPhones and is not standard on Android.

Some manufacturers do it, but it's undocumented. And using undocumented stuff is always risky.

It ended up working reasonably well on Samsung's (although not without some kinks), works really well on LG's and Sony's (although they changed it in 6.0, at least they documented the new way).

Now with HTC, it really seems (from my personal experience and from that library's issue report) unstable and therefore dangerous.

Maybe WhatsApp does it in an entirely different way, maybe they were able to talk to someone at HTC?

Or maybe they feel OK about handling this on the support side ("it worked on my old HTC phone but does not work on the new HTC phone, plz fix immediate").
Creating debug logs for diagnostics: https://www.aqua-mail.com/troubleshooting/

The official FAQ: https://www.aqua-mail.com/faq/

Лог-файлы для диагностики: https://www.aqua-mail.com/ru/troubleshooting/

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Re: Version 1.7.0-12-dev - "work in progress", not in Google Play
« Reply #40 on: November 23, 2016, 12:56:40 am »
I'm not sad nor do I take anything personal, I'm just interested in making this app even better, just like yourselves.
Hence the remark that I will try and contact a few people, see if I can dig some documentation up although I doubt it.
It's a great app and the security aspect of it is hopefully going to remain intact.

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Re: Version 1.7.0-12-dev - "work in progress", not in Google Play
« Reply #41 on: November 23, 2016, 01:12:47 am »
Re: Hence the remark that I will try and contact a few people, see if I can dig some documentation up although I doubt it.

Yes, sure, if you're able to find anything out...
Creating debug logs for diagnostics: https://www.aqua-mail.com/troubleshooting/

The official FAQ: https://www.aqua-mail.com/faq/

Лог-файлы для диагностики: https://www.aqua-mail.com/ru/troubleshooting/

Вопросы и ответы: https://www.aqua-mail.com/ru/faq/

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Re: Version 1.7.0-12-dev - "work in progress", not in Google Play
« Reply #42 on: November 23, 2016, 01:28:53 am »
HAve you looked in the htc dev?

https://www.htcdev.com/devcenter

It should be there somewhere, I'll have a look also.

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Re: Version 1.7.0-12-dev - "work in progress", not in Google Play
« Reply #43 on: November 23, 2016, 01:30:30 am »
Re: HAve you looked in the htc dev?

Yes, I've seen it before.
Creating debug logs for diagnostics: https://www.aqua-mail.com/troubleshooting/

The official FAQ: https://www.aqua-mail.com/faq/

Лог-файлы для диагностики: https://www.aqua-mail.com/ru/troubleshooting/

Вопросы и ответы: https://www.aqua-mail.com/ru/faq/

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Re: Version 1.7.0-12-dev - "work in progress", not in Google Play
« Reply #44 on: November 23, 2016, 01:45:01 am »
Have you seen this one?

https://github.com/woalk/NotifCount

might have some info in there, couldn't find anything on htc dev indeed...

ah, sorry, seen now that you created a new topic.
Please feel free to move my replys over :)

Thanks.
« Last Edit: November 23, 2016, 01:49:50 am by p50kombi »