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mikeone

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Re: Best laid plans for after 1.6.0
« Reply #30 on: November 28, 2015, 06:12:45 pm »
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It is important to note AquaMail is performing the move function properly; no issues there! Copy would add new dimension (and associated complexity) that might provide better support for multi-tagging in Gmail.
Davey126:
Thanks for your explanations. Yes, I understand and agree with your thoughts that "Copy would add a new dimension..." in complexity  in managing messages for AquaMail.

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Re: Best laid plans for after 1.6.0
« Reply #31 on: November 28, 2015, 06:14:23 pm »
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Well, the action "Move to folder..." is already implemented in AquaMail.
"Move" is not an option for what I'd like to do. Let me explain how I operate. I use Gmail's "Multiple Inbox" lab feature and use labels: To Do, Awaiting Reply, Read, etc. And I have multiple clients each with a different label: HCA, VSA, McD, etc. So I want to view the "To Do" folder and also easily see what needs to be done, for example, for McD. Gmail allows for this with multi-tagging. Now that conversation view option is implemented, the addition of a multi-tag option would make Aqua Mail absolute perfection for me.
« Last Edit: November 28, 2015, 06:18:58 pm by jonezrin »

mikeone

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Re: Best laid plans for after 1.6.0
« Reply #32 on: November 28, 2015, 06:17:48 pm »
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Well, the action "Move to folder..." is already implemented in AquaMail.
"Move" is not an option for what I'd like to do. Let me explain how I operate.
My statement was just a reply to Davey126's previous post...   8)

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Re: Best laid plans for after 1.6.0
« Reply #33 on: November 28, 2015, 06:22:04 pm »
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My statement was just a reply to Davey126's previous post...
Understood. Just trying to fully explain what I'd love to see implemented.

Kostya Vasilyev

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Re: Best laid plans for after 1.6.0
« Reply #34 on: November 28, 2015, 07:35:00 pm »
Re: Still, you seem concerned about AquaMail on 6.0.  What should I do or look for?  I'm not really certain exactly what issues you're worried about.


Yes, and mostly about Doze mode and its impact on push mail.

At this point, if the user actually accepts "excluding AquaMail from battery optimizations", scheduled mail checks should work fine, even in Doze more (every 15 minutes or more apart, this is imposed by Android).

However, properly maintaining push mail connections in Doze mode just doesn't seem possible -- even Google's own VPN service has issues with that.

And that's where they want all apps to work off of their Google Cloud Messaging, which I'm most likely not going to do.

In terms of testing, I've got a Nexus 5 with 6.0 in front of me (and will update a Nexus 7 tablet to it sooner or later, the OTA is ready already) -- but any feedback is welcome.

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And to clarify what I've done:

- Prompt the user to "exclude AquaMail from battery optimizations" -- if he/she accepts, then AquaMail uses Android 6's new functions which let the app wake up even in Doze mode and have access to the network. This is only possible if the app is set up by the user like that.

- More gracefully handle the device coming out of Doze mode and a delayed mail check time trigger kicking in -- perhaps just as the user's starting up the app -- ensuring that this delayed mail check actually runs.

As far as I can tell, there is not much else I can do.

I'm also somewhat concerned about "application standby mode"...

...which is like Doze mode, but not system wide as Doze is, rather it's per-app where the system decides "gee, the user doesn't seem to use this app that much" and also blocks network access / time based events.

Hopefully this is decided over a fairly long stretch of time, not a hour or two... So that actually running the app would keep it from happening.
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Re: Best laid plans for after 1.6.0
« Reply #35 on: November 29, 2015, 02:26:11 am »
I have 6.0 on a Nexus 4, Nexus 7 and soon a couple of Nexus 6's.  I'll see how they work with/without AquaMail excluded from Doze mode (optimized/not optimized) and let you know if anything odd happens.

Agree that you probably have done about all you can to adapt AquaMail to Doze.

Agree completely about Google Cloud Messaging.  And along the same line, with your position regarding cloud-based email clients.  Keep AquaMail as it is.  It's a terrific piece of software.

Android since v1.0. Linux since 2001
« Last Edit: November 29, 2015, 02:58:24 pm by crashdamage »
Android since v1.0.  Linux since 2001.

Davey126

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Re: Best laid plans for after 1.6.0
« Reply #36 on: November 29, 2015, 07:25:24 pm »
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It is important to note AquaMail is performing the move function properly; no issues there! Copy would add new dimension (and associated complexity) that might provide better support for multi-tagging in Gmail.
Davey126:
Thanks for your explanations. Yes, I understand and agree with your thoughts that "Copy would add a new dimension..." in complexity  in managing messages for AquaMail.
Appreciate the discussion on this topic. After reviewing the suggested links and comparing to my experiences (don't always match but close enough) I come away with the following perspective:
- the available folder management/view functions work as intended (thanks to @Paris Geek for the detailed post)
- it would be nice to have 'copy to folder' capability but is not a 'requirement' (at least for me)
- a view showing multi-folder assignments and the associated tools to managed  folder 'tags' would be great in concept but would likely add layers of complexity to an already busy UI and probably would not see wide-spread use.

Proposing new functionality can be polarizing (think Conversations) with proponents/opponents engaging in endless debate. While I personally maintain an extensive folder hierarchy with occasional double tagging I can easily use the Gmail web interface to accomplish my goals.
« Last Edit: November 29, 2015, 07:46:35 pm by Davey126 »

Kostya Vasilyev

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Re: Best laid plans for after 1.6.0
« Reply #37 on: November 29, 2015, 07:33:40 pm »
Re: nice to have 'move to folder' capability

"move" is already there, I guess you meant "copy"? There is no "copy" sorry, and no Gmail tags management.
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Davey126

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Re: Best laid plans for after 1.6.0
« Reply #38 on: November 29, 2015, 07:44:00 pm »
Re: nice to have 'move to folder' capability

"move" is already there, I guess you meant "copy"? There is no "copy" sorry, and no Gmail tags management.
Yep - sorry about the typo. I'll correct in the original post.

Kostya Vasilyev

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Re: Best laid plans for after 1.6.0
« Reply #39 on: December 02, 2015, 04:23:16 pm »
Re: Move and copy between accounts please

No problem. By tonight.

Now if you re-read my original message in this thread, you'll see that there is a plan of sorts.
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paras.desai

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Re: Best laid plans for after 1.6.0
« Reply #40 on: December 13, 2015, 09:12:39 pm »
Copy to folder could be a good idea.  I have following scenario
I move mail that u need to work on later to "to - do"  folder.  Share it with task or calender and put reminder.  Unfortunately,  I use pop3, on outlook desktop and my Zimbra sync only inbox,  so moved message from mobile to to-do folder is not downloaded on outlook.,  unless I move them back to inbox. 

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Exchange EWS synchronization
« Reply #41 on: January 03, 2016, 08:26:37 pm »
I apologize for my English Elementary

Since we can not have push on exchange, I suggest you this possibility:

1- synchronize emails to INBOX (or some selected folders) 1,2,3..10 every 15 minutes ...

2- synchronize all other folders with the default configuration

two types of synchronization, only for a inbox and one for the other folders

this way, if I decide to synchronize every 1 minute inbox, other folders will not be synchronized, or they can expect to sync only as provided in paragraph 2

made myself clear ?

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Backup, Restore and reset
« Reply #42 on: January 03, 2016, 08:34:00 pm »

It would be appropriate to have a reset button that allows you to restore the initial conditions of AM without deleting accounts.
That would be much appreciated power to backup only accounts.
Separately back up settings AM, and also be able to restore only accounts or configuration. It would be nice to be able to do the restore of some accounts and some not.

Kostya Vasilyev

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Re: Best laid plans for after 1.6.0
« Reply #43 on: January 03, 2016, 08:38:31 pm »
Re: That would be much appreciated power to backup only accounts

It is possible to back up only accounts and not settings.

Re: It would be nice to be able to do the restore of some accounts and some not

If you'd restored too many, it's pretty easy to delete the ones you don't need (before checking mail in them).
Creating debug logs for diagnostics: https://www.aqua-mail.com/troubleshooting/

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Re: Best laid plans for after 1.6.0
« Reply #44 on: January 04, 2016, 07:21:25 am »
Please don't put encryption at the end of your list. Not only me, I  think, need it and are forced to run a second application like R2Mail2.

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