Author Topic: Best laid plans for after 1.6.0  (Read 28157 times)

Kostya Vasilyev

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Best laid plans for after 1.6.0
« on: November 20, 2015, 04:37:35 pm »
The lack of conversation view was the app's most obvious shortcoming -- until now.

Version 1.6.0 is still only in "beta", but I should be able to start rolling it out for all users soon (a "staged" gradual rollout, as usual).

With that in mind, here are my plans for after 1.6.0:

- "Undo" for deleting / moving messages

- Android 6 "ask for permissions on first use"

- Better on-device search by message text (aware of international characters, faster)

And once those are done and released, I'm going to start looking for other things to do.

Some ideas for that (still distant) future include, in no particular order:

- Looking at Exchange push again, maybe I previously missed something

- Contact sync for Exchange

- More Immaterial Design

(annoying animations! tiny buttons! padding the size of a football field! grey text on grey background!)

- Encryption / signing

This of course assumes by then my app isn't yet made obsolete by the competition.

« Last Edit: June 09, 2016, 12:49:00 am by Kostya Vasilyev, Aqua Mail »
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Re: Best laid plans for after 1.6.0
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2015, 06:10:11 pm »
why would your app (the best code at that)  ever be made obsolete?  or was that weekend humor :)?  cloud based apps are ostensibly more fluid but then the issue of the " cloud"  and the insecurities of third party servers will always remain. 

Kostya Vasilyev

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Re: Best laid plans for after 1.6.0
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2015, 06:30:06 pm »
Yes, the popular mail apps are mostly cloud based (with the notable exception of Boxer, and Google's own Gmail app itself for non-Gmail accounts) and it works well for them.

I prefer the more traditional approach.

But...

First, Google made life very difficult for non-cloud based apps in Android 6, and it's only a matter of time before everyone runs that version (at least, or some Android 9). Same as now there are very few devices in use running < 4.0.3.

Second, most people don't seem to mind, or are even aware.
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Re: Best laid plans for after 1.6.0
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2015, 06:37:47 pm »
have you had any feedback/initial impressions from aquamail users on android 6? 

Kostya Vasilyev

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Re: Best laid plans for after 1.6.0
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2015, 06:39:28 pm »
Nothing so far.

Surprising, because Doze mode really stops everything -- maybe they understand?

I am going to try and add workarounds, prompting the user to exclude the app from "battery optimizations".
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Re: Best laid plans for after 1.6.0
« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2015, 06:49:52 pm »
regardless,  the quality of your app will always make it stand out.  as the number of email apps continue to grow so do the users.  most cloud based apps do not give you the " granular"  control that aqua or k9  or maildroid do.  they focus on push only  for inboxes and that is only going to suffice for the read/ send user...   your proposed workaround sounds promising.  good luck! 

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Re: Best laid plans for after 1.6.0
« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2015, 09:52:18 pm »
Hi Kostya,

Here are some suggestions which I collected in the past and kept it in my mind:

• new swipe action "send to calendar..."
  (instrad of open a message, go to menu , then share, send to your calendar /to do app...)
http://www.aqua-mail.com/forum/index.php?topic=2653.msg11521#msg11521

• gathering so called productivity command in one comprehensive menu
  > 'to show Aquamail's features more prominently' as suggested by paras.desai
http://www.aqua-mail.com/forum/index.php?topic=2748.msg12168#msg12168
http://www.aqua-mail.com/forum/index.php?topic=2734.msg12139#msg12139

• possibility for moving messages even to a folder of another account

• edit folder/subfolder within an acount (create/rename/delete *)
  * folder should not be deleted if it still contains at least one message

• sorting folders
  > as suggested by ckilpatrickuk
http://www.aqua-mail.com/forum/index.php?topic=26.msg91#msg91

• messages get grouped by date
  > as suggested by paras.desai
http://www.aqua-mail.com/forum/index.php?topic=2658.msg11577#msg11577


Kostya,
These are just my personal suggestions / my'wish list' sorted by my priorities.
I do not want to pressure you as I'm sure you will have some of these features already on your own to do / priority list book.

Thanks a lot for the excellent development on your pretty nice app. I appreciate it very much.

Kindest regards
Mike
« Last Edit: November 20, 2015, 11:19:42 pm by mikeone »

Kostya Vasilyev

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Re: Best laid plans for after 1.6.0
« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2015, 09:58:09 pm »
@mike --

That's a very small list :)

The list of "various suggested ideas"  which I've been keeping has at least 50 items (and I stopped counting after that) :)
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Re: Best laid plans for after 1.6.0
« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2015, 10:13:01 pm »
@mike --

That's a very small list :)

The list of "various suggested ideas"  which I've been keeping has at least 50 items (and I stopped counting after that) :)
Well, these are just a few, small suggestions which could be developed in a day or two...
 8) 8)
... just kidding  :)

Kostya Vasilyev

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Re: Best laid plans for after 1.6.0
« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2015, 10:17:08 pm »
Re: just a few, small suggestions which could be developed in a day or two

You mean *all* of them, right?
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Re: Best laid plans for after 1.6.0
« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2015, 10:24:16 pm »
Re: just a few, small suggestions which could be developed in a day or two

You mean *all* of them, right?
Yes, "All" together... maybe as a relaxing weekend work.
...ducking and running away...

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Re: Best laid plans for after 1.6.0
« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2015, 05:45:46 pm »
@mike --

That's a very small list :)

The list of "various suggested ideas"  which I've been keeping has at least 50 items (and I stopped counting after that) :)

I'll add one more; the only thing I want for AquaMail, which is otherwise perfect  ;D
I get tons of Spam in my pop3 account; I'd love it if AquaMail would add a mailbox sort for "has a contact entry."  That way, I could quickly find messages from my contacts without having to scroll through hundreds of messages.  Perhaps there's already a way to do this in AquaMail that I've missed.  I currently use a gMail account to filter spam, but that means I have two accounts to check.

Other than that, AquaMail is perfect, and definitely the best app on Android I've ever used.  So smooth and solid and everything works as advertised.

P.S. I'm not a paid employee of AquaMail, even though I might sound like one.

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Re: Best laid plans for after 1.6.0
« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2015, 08:10:30 pm »
Re: has a contact entry

Yes, I still have it written down, and... checking system contacts is pretty expensive, has to be done from a worker thread, there is a delay, yada yada yada... and more and more meaningless blabbering...
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Re: Best laid plans for after 1.6.0
« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2015, 11:38:14 pm »
Hello, people from the message list when mail is sent to multiple people is the first official picture of the person. I think it should be a formal group. Thanks

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Re: Best laid plans for after 1.6.0
« Reply #14 on: November 22, 2015, 09:05:43 am »
With that in mind, here are my plans for after 1.6.0:

- "Undo" for deleting / moving messages

- Better on-device search by message text (aware of international characters, faster)



PLEASE THIS ^
1. I've accidentally deleted a couple of emails (via errant swiping) and had to hunt around to get them back.
2. Please consider searching deep within each account (i.e. back via the server and not just the already downloaded msgs) when searching from the Smart Account.

Thanks.