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melmacme

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TO DELETED
« on: August 21, 2013, 02:41:59 pm »
dear AquaMail,
thanks for the great app! using it every day & enjoying it a lot.
however, on an adroid's dropdown notification screen there's a 'typo' on the left action button, which says "To Deleted" instead of just "Delete" (see the attached screenshot). it's not a big deal from the functional point of view, but should be corrected some day...
good luck!
mel

Kostya Vasilyev

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Re: TO DELETED
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2013, 02:51:06 am »
"Move to the Deleted folder" ----> shortened as "To Deleted".


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melmacme

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Re: TO DELETED
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2013, 12:53:03 pm »
thanks for your explanation, Kostya!
but still... that's quite an unusual approach to usability - in every email application out there, be it mobile or desktop, they use just 'Delete' button (and yes, they also move 'deleted' messages to the 'Deleted Items' folder - for instance, this is the case with MS Outlook).
of course, i might be wrong, but if you make a poll here re: 'To Deleted' vs. 'Delete', chances are high that the latter would win;)
anyway, good luck!
mel

jcasares

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Re: TO DELETED
« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2013, 07:21:00 am »
I agree that the action "Delete" is more common in these cases than the abbreviation "Move to the Deleted folder".

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Re: TO DELETED
« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2013, 08:02:06 pm »
+1

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« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2013, 08:29:44 pm »
I agree that the action "Delete" is more common in these cases than the abbreviation "Move to the Deleted folder".
I was happy with either. That was until I thought about it. I think 'to deleted' is accurate and self explanatory. It just gets my vote because of the importance of the folders in an IMAP based mail system.
People used to Windows with a recycle bin might like 'delete', but I have at least one program on my PC that has a 'delete immediately' menu item, because 'delete' means put in a folder for real deletion later. Also in windows you can shift-delete or ctl-delete (whatever) to delete immediately as you have a physical keyboard.
On mobiles using iOS or android, I think the 'no entry' sign is used as a true irrevocable delete, but you don't use that.
 In short, the term 'delete' is overloaded. I bet many users have apps on the same device they use with Aquamail for which 'delete' means 'delete', and no return ticket.
The more overloaded the term becomes, the more likely that a mistake will be made:
Either
Deleting irrevocably what you may wish to recover.
Or
Failing to delete irrevocably something that is still hanging about.

There needs ideally to be a certain and accident-resistant way to empty the deleted folder - in windows-speak to empty the trash.

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Re: TO DELETED
« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2013, 10:47:22 pm »
Then, as there is plenty of space just use "Move to Deleted".

Kostya Vasilyev

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Re: TO DELETED
« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2013, 02:31:53 am »
"I have at least one program on my PC that has a 'delete immediately' menu item, because 'delete' means put in a folder for real deletion later"

Funny, I have a mail app on my Android devices that has that too.

That was my reason, really -- to communicate clearly which of the app's three ways of "deleting" messages (move to deleted, delete immediately, hide) will happen.

And BTW, the current wording is "Move to Deleted" which fits on modern larger screens, and has an ellipsis at the very end on the prev-generation 480*480, etc.
« Last Edit: September 02, 2013, 02:33:33 am by Kostya Vasilyev, Aqua Mail »
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