Version 1.14's new editor is unusable for Dark Themes

[mkdee]

The new editor, which I'm sure is awesome, appears with a white background and with white text.  Since I have the theme set to dark, this is unusable.

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[Kostya Vasilyev]

White text? How do you do that?

I'm attaching a screenshot of what it looks like for me.

The part above is what I typed - and there is a quoted (original) message below.

[mkdee]

I just checked again and the text is now black, which is good.

However in dark mode, I don't want the background for replies to be white.  I want it to be black.  I am afterall using a dark theme.

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[Kostya Vasilyev]

Re: However in dark mode, I don't want the background for replies to be white.  I want it to be black.  I am afterall using a dark theme.

Cannot be done in the new editor. We chose a "muted" gray instead of the pure white in the other themes. Yes it's not "black" but it's "next best thing".

[mikeone]

I just checked again and the text is now black, which is good.

However in dark mode, I don't want the background for replies to be white.  I want it to be black.  I am afterall using a dark theme.

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Black background isn't available with the "New editor" in version 1.14.xxx

https://www.aqua-mail.com/forum/index.php?topic=6418.msg38796#msg38796

[fronkenstein]

At the risk of sounding like a hater - why would you release a feature that breaks a commonly used UX feature and greatly hinder usability / accessibility? Call me a curmudgeon but there have been several "improvements" that IMHO were not scrutinized prior to release and many were / are UX. I loved Aqua for its ease of use and generally simple set up. It is starting stray off course. But it is still the best email environment out there hands down. I know, no specifics given. I am sorry but it's been too long since my last irritation with Aqua. I rarely post.

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[fronkenstein]

Kostya, gray is not even close to the next best thing. I have eye problems and white or light background makes it very hard for me to read / compose unless in a heavily shaded room. Yes I can shut off the new editor - great and I lose the new features. But I recommend that further consideration be made when releasing anything that has significant visual impact like changes to fore/background/font/icon coloration and size. Add minimal accessibility to your criteria for consideration to release.

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[phred]

You can always disable the new editor and that will take you back to using the all black theme.
Main Menu (three dots in upper right) > Settings > Composing and sending > New message editor (untick)

[Kostya Vasilyev]

At the risk of sounding like a hater - why would you release a feature that breaks a commonly used UX feature and greatly hinder usability / accessibility?

For the new features:

- Lists
- Paragraph alignment
- Preserving formatting when editing original message

Feel free to search the forum for historical user complaints / requests related to the above.

And:

- Less cluttered, more streamlined "reply / enter new text / send".

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Re: gray is not even close to the next best thing

Gray is definitely less bright than pure white, or am I wrong?

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Now there are people, including yourself, who really must have black (and sometimes not just dark gray, but pure black), for various reasons (less than perfect eyesight, AMOLED screens, ...)

But these people are in the minority, so we enabled the new editor by default so that existing users would see the new stuff - and not only the 5% who'd go into settings to enable it (assuming we made it off by default).

And yet - we did add a way to turn the new editor off, it's fully supported (i.e. not a "try it and maybe it'll work"), and with it you can get that "light text on black background" again.

[kornelis]

I’m glad that there is a way to disable the new editor, because apparently I belong to the 5% that purchased AquaMail precisely because I liked the dark background.

I suppose it’s my own fault that I became frustrated with being unable to remove the new light background. I probably clicked away an update screen without reading it, and when confronted with the light background thought it might be a bug, either in AquaMail or Android. On the other hand, it may be helpful to indicate in settings that for a dark background one has to disable the new editor. Currently it’s no longer intuitive. But thanks for reminding me here.

[fronkenstein]

At the risk of sounding like a hater - why would you release a feature that breaks a commonly used UX feature and greatly hinder usability / accessibility?

For the new features:

- Lists
- Paragraph alignment
- Preserving formatting when editing original message

Feel free to search the forum for historical user complaints / requests related to the above.

And:

- Less cluttered, more streamlined "reply / enter new text / send".

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Re: gray is not even close to the next best thing

Gray is definitely less bright than pure white, or am I wrong?

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Now there are people, including yourself, who really must have black (and sometimes not just dark gray, but pure black), for various reasons (less than perfect eyesight, AMOLED screens, ...)

But these people are in the minority, so we enabled the new editor by default so that existing users would see the new stuff - and not only the 5% who'd go into settings to enable it (assuming we made it off by default).

And yet - we did add a way to turn the new editor off, it's fully supported (i.e. not a "try it and maybe it'll work"), and with it you can get that "light text on black background" again.

This is a very disappointing response from you Kostya. I'm sorry but you've broken aqua unless I am missing some setting. I DISABLED the new editor and it sends email with a black border and white composition background with WHITE TEXT. So people are telling me I am sending blank messages! When in fact my composition is pure black. Telling us we're in the 5% minority is ridiculous. So how do I fix my font color issues?

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[Kostya Vasilyev]

Re: This is a very disappointing response from you Kostya.

To know that different people's needs are different? And that some are more common and some less common?

Re: I DISABLED the new editor and it sends email with a black border and white composition background with WHITE TEXT.

I'm not able to reproduce this.

Just tried:

- New editor off
- Dark theme with dark messages
- Replied to a formatted original message (making sure it's HTML not plain text)
- Sent to one of my test account

Result:

The message was received - checked in another mail app - with black text on white background.

Also tried:

- Adding formatting to the signature
- Replying again, to pick up the new formatted signature

Again, received - checked in another mail app - just fine, black text on white background.

Re: When in fact my composition is pure black

You mean text color? Background color?

With new text editor off - text color should be near-white and background should be black.

Can you check app settings -> composing and sending, do you perhaps have *black* selected as default text color?

Or maybe something else I'm missing?