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Kostya Vasilyev

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Version 1.12.0-597-dev - "work in progress", not in Google Play
« on: September 08, 2017, 08:26:24 pm »
https://www.aqua-mail.com/download/AquaMail-market-1.12.0-595-dev-156528545868.apk

https://www.aqua-mail.com/download/AquaMail-market-1.12.0-597-dev-6fee6eb2b040.apk

^^^ 597: updated AR FR translations.

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+ The search "bar" now auto-completes the query from Contacts. App settings -> search.

I wonder if  - when selecting a contact, the search "type" should automatically switch to "headers only".

Thoughts, dear users?

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+ При вводе "чего ищем" теперь есть авто-дополнение из Контактов. Настройки - поиска.

И вот я думаю - может быть при выборе контакта, тип поиска должен переключаться на "поиск по заголовкам".

Что думаете, господа пользователи?
« Last Edit: September 10, 2017, 04:24:31 pm by Kostya Vasilyev, Aqua Mail »
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Re: Version 1.12.0-595-dev - "work in progress", not in Google Play
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2017, 10:32:07 pm »

Thank you for new versiom.

I wonder if  - when selecting a contact, the search "type" should automatically switch to "headers only".

Thoughts, dear users?

1. Search type can easily be changed during typing by users. So why making it more complicated?


2. "Automatical" changing after selecting a contact can help  (if intended to search headers), but will cause confusions, especially if users don't realize the change of search type.


3. Technically there are two cases


- Contact is only to be found in mail headers: So there is no difference in result of searching in headers or full text. (Of course there could be speed differences)


- Contact can be found not only in mail headers, but also in mail bodies: Often the user will not know where to search, so let him search everywhere - full text search in headers and bodies.
And he can decide himself everytime he is performing a search.

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Re: Version 1.12.0-595-dev - "work in progress", not in Google Play
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2017, 11:09:41 pm »
@Paris Geek:

Thanks for the translations as usual!

@nica:

Yes that's my reservation too (but then I'm not at all sure if users "less expert" than the bunch here on this forum are at all aware of the "search type" button...)

On the other hand, if search type is "magically" changed to headers only - it can be changed from search results by clicking the search icon (again).
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Re: Version 1.12.0-595-dev - "work in progress", not in Google Play
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2017, 11:15:24 pm »

Thank you for new versiom.

I wonder if  - when selecting a contact, the search "type" should automatically switch to "headers only".

Thoughts, dear users?

1. Search type can easily be changed during typing by users. So why making it more complicated?


2. "Automatical" changing after selecting a contact can help  (if intended to search headers), but will cause confusions, especially if users don't realize the change of search type.


3. Technically there are two cases


- Contact is only to be found in mail headers: So there is no difference in result of searching in headers or full text. (Of course there could be speed differences)


- Contact can be found not only in mail headers, but also in mail bodies: Often the user will not know where to search, so let him search everywhere - full text search in headers and bodies.
And he can decide himself everytime he is performing a search.
I fully agree with you.

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Re: Version 1.12.0-597-dev - "work in progress", not in Google Play
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2017, 11:34:03 pm »
@mikeone: Thx


@Kostya


BTW: Why do we have two magnifier glass icons on tablet (not on phone),
- one in top bar for searching within loaded messages,
- one in bottom bar for searching on server?

We can't distinguish between them (see screenshot). Confusing. I often forget which one is for searching on server.

Suggestion: Only one icon, which allows to choose search location.
« Last Edit: September 08, 2017, 11:39:19 pm by nica »

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Re: Version 1.12.0-595-dev - "work in progress", not in Google Play
« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2017, 11:41:17 pm »
On the other hand, if search type is "magically" changed to headers only - it can be changed from search results by clicking the search icon (again).

It is often hard to notice that the search icon changed, especially if you don't expect it to.
While I see the rational behind switching, @nica's consideration makes sense, and it convinced me that it shouldn't be switched automatically: the UI's behavior should be consistent.

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Re: Version 1.12.0-597-dev - "work in progress", not in Google Play
« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2017, 12:09:39 am »
Re: We can't distinguish between them (see screenshot). Confusing. I often forget which one is for searching on server.

You can - if you tap it and examine the "hint" displayed in the search field.

And in general - the icons below the message list apply to the folder "owning" the message list.
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Re: Version 1.12.0-597-dev - "work in progress", not in Google Play
« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2017, 12:23:54 am »


You can - if you tap it and examine the "hint" displayed in the search field.


I meant "before" tapping on it.

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And in general - the icons below the message list apply to the folder "owning" the message list.
Technically clear. But intuitively? (I generally know it, but however, I mix them up often).

Generally spoken, identical icons on the screen at the same time with different purposes are not easy for all users.

But no need to discuss further, personally not the most important aspect. :)



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Re: Version 1.12.0-597-dev - "work in progress", not in Google Play
« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2017, 03:07:59 am »
Technically clear. But intuitively? (I generally know it, but however, I mix them up often).

Generally spoken, identical icons on the screen at the same time with different purposes are not easy for all users.

But no need to discuss further, personally not the most important aspect. :)

I completely agree with @nica that it is a sub-par design choice to have identical icons on the same screen but with different functions.

I also agree that at the moment, it is not a pressing issue.

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Re: Version 1.12.0-597-dev - "work in progress", not in Google Play
« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2017, 06:25:02 pm »
Re: I completely agree with @nica that it is a sub-par design choice to have identical icons on the same screen but with different functions.

The "functions" are not quite identical - there is a "refresh all accounts" icon and a "refresh the folder" icon, the latter is below the folder to which is applies.

Same with search and compose.

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Re: Version 1.12.0-597-dev - "work in progress", not in Google Play
« Reply #10 on: September 11, 2017, 08:42:32 am »
I was talking about the functions of the search icons that appear on the same screen without any clear to what they refer (unlike the refresh buttons).

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Re: Version 1.12.0-597-dev - "work in progress", not in Google Play
« Reply #11 on: September 11, 2017, 08:59:32 pm »
+ При вводе "чего ищем" теперь есть авто-дополнение из Контактов. Настройки - поиска.
Это самое значимое, что добавилось в программе за долгое вромя.
Я ради этого даже обновился с моей любимой версии 1.10.0-376, где есть "глюк" со скрытыми полями "Обратный адрес" и "Скрытая копия" -  Всё еще ОЧЕНЬ жду добавления такой настройки
Спасибо!
И вот я думаю - может быть при выборе контакта, тип поиска должен переключаться на "поиск по заголовкам".
Что думаете, господа пользователи?
Можете пояснить, что под этим понимается? Какая связь между этим и добавлением поиска по контактам? Не проще сделать так же как происходит поиск в приложении Gmail? (как именно там это происходит, я не знаю, правда:) )
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Re: Version 1.12.0-597-dev - "work in progress", not in Google Play
« Reply #12 on: September 11, 2017, 09:39:26 pm »
Re: Можете пояснить, что под этим понимается? Какая связь между этим и добавлением поиска по контактам?

Кроме "что искать" в панели поиска ещё есть "как искать", то есть "в чём именно". Это кнопка / иконка с правой стороны.

Re: [...] сделать так же как [...] в приложении Gmail? (как именно там это происходит, я не знаю, правда:)

Конструктивненько :)
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Re: Version 1.12.0-597-dev - "work in progress", not in Google Play
« Reply #13 on: September 12, 2017, 04:18:36 pm »
Re: Можете пояснить, что под этим понимается? Какая связь между этим и добавлением поиска по контактам?

Кроме "что искать" в панели поиска ещё есть "как искать", то есть "в чём именно". Это кнопка / иконка с правой стороны.

Re: [...] сделать так же как [...] в приложении Gmail? (как именно там это происходит, я не знаю, правда:)

Конструктивненько :)
Понял. Тогда думаю, что автоматическое переключение на поиск по заголовкам не очень хорошая идея. Лучше, чтобы после нахождения контактов поиск был (продолжался) по всем частям писем.

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Re: Version 1.12.0-597-dev - "work in progress", not in Google Play
« Reply #14 on: September 12, 2017, 09:30:53 pm »
Хорошо, сейчас именно так.
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