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sql.sith

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Re: Archiving Messages With Gmail
« Reply #15 on: October 10, 2015, 01:37:24 am »
Did you hear from them yet, Kostya?

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Kostya Vasilyev

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Re: Archiving Messages With Gmail
« Reply #16 on: October 10, 2015, 09:44:39 pm »
@sql.sith -- nope, nothing.

I'll say more -- the actual bug, based on what I've seen, is the server mis-counting the "EXISTS" value (the total number of messages in a folder).

Sometimes it's smaller than actual number, and then -- since a mobile app tries to sync only a limited number of messages, counting back from total number -- some of the most recent messages will be left out.

That's the original issue in that forum thread, and someone posted that he was seeing it in AquaMail, K9 Mail, BlueMail (IIRC) and maybe others.

I also know that asking your (GoDaddy) to "resync the account" often helps, so there might be a cache / data issue on your side, corruption / getting out of sync.
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sql.sith

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Re: Archiving Messages With Gmail
« Reply #17 on: October 23, 2015, 12:55:26 am »
Thanks for the info. Unfortunately, I have no clout in our hosting departments, so I can't promise anything but trying.

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Re: Archiving Messages With Gmail
« Reply #18 on: December 03, 2015, 06:40:45 pm »
So it's been several months since I've been using aquamail now. Only issue I have is the same one I posted about in this thread before. But it seems like a better solution may exist now?

Simply want to archive gmail messages to the correct folders. Right now filters in gmail are set to auto forward to label. Problem is in Aquamail I miss many of them now and often have duplicates in smart folder because I can't get it to synch quite right.

Is there and easy straightforward answer to how to set this up yat,]/

Is it a different setup process now? Can I change gmail  filters ?

Ty

Kostya Vasilyev

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Re: Archiving Messages With Gmail
« Reply #19 on: December 04, 2015, 01:39:38 am »
I've been using Gmail filters in my account for years, sorting into different folders, reading my mail in AquaMail.

This, what you wrote before, should help:

"But I think I resolved my issue by changing my filters in gmail to "skip the inbox"... "

This is what makes Gmail "move" and not "copy" messages into the destination folders. Maybe you have it on for some of the filters, but not all? Worth checking perhaps.

I also would not set up "starred" or "all mail" or "important" folders / labels for sync in AquaMail -- those contain "copies" of your messages (in terms of what it looks like over IMAP).

As for me, I only "sync" in AquaMail: my Inbox, each of the folders for filtering (mailing lists, etc) and of course the special trio (sent / drafts / deleted).
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rdelarie

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Re: Archiving Messages With Gmail
« Reply #20 on: December 04, 2015, 01:14:48 pm »
This is pretty much how I set up AquaMail with my Gmail account. The only thing I haven't figured out (maybe it is impossible) is how to get notifications for the inbox only and not for the folders where I have various newsletters go to via Gmail's filters (skipping the inbox). In the Gmail app I don't get notifications for those folders, which is the way I like it, as I don't want to be notified for every newsletter coming in. I see this very much as the purpose of skipping the inbox. I also do not understand why you would not sync the starred folder, unless you add it to the smart folder, which I don't use.
Thank you by the way for AquaMail. I recently started using it again, after playing with it a bit sometime ago and purchasing the pro version. It is a great program.
René

mikeone

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Re: Archiving Messages With Gmail
« Reply #21 on: December 04, 2015, 03:38:54 pm »
You will find this option in each folder
A kind of help could be the following option as workaround:

Go to app's main window (account list view) > long press on Account name (your Gmail account) > Options and folders > Folders > Turn off "Use IMAP Push" by tapping on the wheel on the right side of the respective folders ...
« Last Edit: December 04, 2015, 11:35:16 pm by mikeone »

Kostya Vasilyev

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Re: Archiving Messages With Gmail
« Reply #22 on: December 04, 2015, 05:38:11 pm »
Um, no, turning off push will still do scheduled checks in those folders and will notify about unreads.

Actually there is no good way to do this now -- to 1) keep a folder enabled for regular sync and 2) not be notified about its messages.

The only workaround right now is to set all such folders as "Sync as Archive".

The first "archive type" folder will be used for the "archive" command, but all such folders will not trigger notifications.

Oh, and since you mention Gmail app -- by default it only syncs the Inbox, not any other "labels" (folders).

There is a way to do this in AquaMail, of course -- a folder not set to sync at all will not trigger notifications, but it won't update automatically either.

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I'm running into this issue in my account right, since about a week there is increased traffic on the @android-developers mailing list (they turned off moderation) and even though I'd like to keep an eye on the respective folder, I don't want notifications.
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Re: Archiving Messages With Gmail
« Reply #23 on: December 04, 2015, 07:44:31 pm »
Kostya,

Just in case (as a gentle reminder), - a few months ago, I had a suggestion for an additional option for folders: "sync but do not notify about new messages" (or even "show but do not sync"). In that case it was for the purpose of saving messages to that folder on a regular basis:
item #5 in this posting
http://www.aqua-mail.com/forum/index.php?topic=3831.msg19708#msg19708 .

I need to save messages from Inbox to a couple of folders on a somewhat regular basis, but only upon reviewing them, so, I am not using automatic server-side filtering for these messages/folders. For reading and saving I use Aquamail as well as Thunderbird and alpine. Obviously, I don't want to see new messages notifications from Aquamail when I save messages in other mail clients into these folders.
Ideally, I would even prefer not to sync those folders automatically (to save the bandwidth), only to be "pinned" in the folders list in Aquamail.

As a workaround, I am using the "sync as archive" kludge that turns off the notifications. But it looks that there are other use cases that would benefit from such an addition (as the case(s) discussed in this thread).

... so, ... maybe?  ;)

Kostya Vasilyev

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Re: Archiving Messages With Gmail
« Reply #24 on: December 04, 2015, 08:42:05 pm »
StR -- yes, I was thinking of your suggestion while typing my above response.
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rdelarie

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Re: Archiving Messages With Gmail
« Reply #25 on: December 05, 2015, 11:48:01 am »
Thanks for the suggested workaround, Kostya. For archiving to keep working properly with Gmail the first folder to be set to Sync as Archive presumably should be All Mail?
You are right that by default most labels are not synced in the Gmail app, but you can set them to sync and turn off notification. It would be great to have this feature in Aquamail.
Best regards,
René

Kostya Vasilyev

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Re: Archiving Messages With Gmail
« Reply #26 on: December 06, 2015, 04:40:40 pm »
Re: Sync as Archive presumably should be All Mail

Yes.

And yes, it's a kludge / ugly hack / whatever.

Thanks for pointing out that Gmail has a "sync but don't notify" option (wonder if this also works for non-Gmail accounts).
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Re: Archiving Messages With Gmail
« Reply #27 on: December 06, 2015, 04:49:51 pm »
non GMail accounts on gmail for android is like a high school grad saying i have a phd.  google have made  a meek and feeble attempt to make their app "complete".  will concede gmail works beautifully ( almost as good as aquamail)  for gmail accounts but trying to pull in other imap accounts without push is like they forgot to write half the code  :)

rdelarie

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Re: Archiving Messages With Gmail
« Reply #28 on: December 07, 2015, 08:53:16 am »
Kostya, I just set up an IMAP account in the Gmail app to be able to answer your question about turning of notifications in folders. It indeed is not possible. It only works for Gmail labels.
As for your suggested workaround in Aquamail: I was unable to get this to work. When I tried setting a second folder to Sync as Archive, the first folder lost its setting. I can only set one folder to Sync as Archive (which seems logical by the way).
René

Kostya Vasilyev

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Re: Archiving Messages With Gmail
« Reply #29 on: December 07, 2015, 04:47:02 pm »
Ah, so I was wrong in describing the "hack".

Alright, it's something I want to do, actually support "sync but don't notify" as a proper setting.
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