Author Topic: Choose the order of folder lists  (Read 23960 times)

foresto

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Choose the order of folder lists
« on: January 08, 2015, 05:03:12 am »
Whenever I go to switch folders or use "move to folder" on a message, AquaMail presents a list of folders in a seemingly arbitrary and very inconvenient order. I have to scroll past rarely-used folders like Spam, Drafts, Sent, etc. in order to find my frequently-used Archive folder. This is pretty irritating.

Is there any way to configure the display order of folders, or to make the most frequently used ones appear first?

foresto

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Re: Choose the order of folder lists
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2015, 10:37:02 am »
It is absolutely not alphabetical order, and even if it was, it would be just as much of a hassle to have to scroll past rarely-used folders every single time.

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Re: Choose the order of folder lists
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2015, 10:48:42 am »
It is absolutely not alphabetical order, and even if it was, it would be just as much of a hassle to have to scroll past rarely-used folders every single time.

Well, the folder list should be in a alphabetical order.
> if this is not the case please attach a screenshot

foresto

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Re: Choose the order of folder lists
« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2015, 11:05:14 am »
Wow... I politely post a couple of simple wish-list requests, and the responses I get are from someone telling me I'm wrong and someone else asking me to prove that I'm not lying. This seems to be a rather hostile forum. How discouraging.

For the sake of informing the developers, though, I'll post a screen shot anyway.

Kostya Vasilyev

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Re: Choose the order of folder lists
« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2015, 01:56:00 pm »
Mr. Paris Geek is not a developer, he's another user, and I don't *think* he implied that you're lying -- he just wanted to see what exactly you're talking about.

I, on the other hand, is not another user.

There are two ways to access folders - "as needed" which you're doing and by setting particular folders to sync "all the time" (like Inbox etc).

"As needed" folders are shown below the "set to sync" folders, to separate the two.

"Set to sync" folders are sorted by type and then by name.

"As needed" folders are sorted by last access time: most recently accessed closer to the top.

You can change how long a particular folder stays on this "recent list" and how many entries are allowed -- app settings under account list (but it affects the "recent folders" list everywhere else, such as in the dialog you have on your screenshot).
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foresto

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Re: Choose the order of folder lists
« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2015, 09:28:46 pm »
There are two ways to access folders - "as needed" which you're doing and by setting particular folders to sync "all the time" (like Inbox etc).

"As needed" folders are shown below the "set to sync" folders, to separate the two.

"Set to sync" folders are sorted by type and then by name.

I see. Out of curiosity, how can I change a sync "as needed" folder to sync "all the time"? Based on your description, I thought that checking "Use IMAP Push" would do it, but it doesn't seem to.

"As needed" folders are sorted by last access time: most recently accessed closer to the top.

Okay, that might help me work around the problem. If I can I configure certain folders to sync "as needed", the most recently used ones ought to appear at the top of the list. That's not quite as good as having the most often used ones first, but it's better than what is happening right now. Is there some way to do this? The only sync-related options I see for these folders seem to be for treating them as incoming, spam, deleted, drafts, or sent, which they are not.

You can change how long a particular folder stays on this "recent list" and how many entries are allowed -- app settings under account list (but it affects the "recent folders" list everywhere else, such as in the dialog you have on your screenshot).

That might also help a bit, if I could set this list to be 0 entries, but the app doesn't let me set a recent folder count value below 3. Drat.


Aha! I just found a thread from two years ago with other users having the same problem. (It looks like one of AquaMail's earliest feature requests, actually.) I look forward to seeing the manual sort feature mentioned here:
http://www.aqua-mail.com/forum/index.php?topic=26.0

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Re: Choose the order of folder lists
« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2015, 10:28:49 pm »
The two ways to access folders is covered in the FAQ, right near the top.

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foresto

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Re: Choose the order of folder lists
« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2015, 10:39:17 pm »
Oh! I just noticed that I misread your "as needed" comment above. I somehow thought you were describing "as needed" as a sync mode, rather than an access mode.

The two ways to access folders is covered in the FAQ, right near the top.

Thanks. I read the FAQ, but sadly, it doesn't address the problem I'm having. I guess I'll have to wait for the manual sort order feature.

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Re: Choose the order of folder lists
« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2015, 11:19:53 pm »
>> somehow thought you were describing "as needed" as a sync mode, rather than an access mode

It's both
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foresto

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Re: Choose the order of folder lists
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2015, 12:07:25 am »
Gotcha.

To summarize for future readers: AquaMail predefines several folders (deleted, drafts, sent, spam) that when properly synced with an account's corresponding IMAP folders, will always be listed before any other folders. It seems there is no way around this problem, but Kostya did once say that manual sorting was going on his to-do list, so we might see a fix some day.

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Re: Choose the order of folder lists
« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2015, 01:27:57 am »
>> AquaMail predefines several folders (deleted, drafts, sent, spam) that when properly synced with an account's corresponding IMAP folders, will always be listed before any other folders

And you can set more server folders to work this way, and they will be sorted together with the initial Inbox / Drafts / Sent / Deleted.

Creating debug logs for diagnostics: https://www.aqua-mail.com/troubleshooting/

The official FAQ: https://www.aqua-mail.com/faq/

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Re: Choose the order of folder lists
« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2015, 01:47:35 am »
>> AquaMail predefines several folders (deleted, drafts, sent, spam) that when properly synced with an account's corresponding IMAP folders, will always be listed before any other folders

And you can set more server folders to work this way, and they will be sorted together with the initial Inbox / Drafts / Sent / Deleted.

Oh, thanks for bringing that up again! I re-read that FAQ entry, and I now see that the parenthetical comment in the seventh paragraph explains that the "Sync as incoming" folder option is different from all the other "Sync as" options: It doesn't bind the IMAP folder to any of AquaMail's predefined folders.

That's pretty useful. I wish the menu of folder sync options made this distinction clear. The way the menu is presented today, that option doesn't stand out from the rest at all, and it gave me the impression that choosing "incoming" would bind the folder to my inbox. Now that I see what it actually does, it looks like a pretty good workaround for me until manual sorting becomes available.

Again, thanks!

Kostya Vasilyev

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Re: Choose the order of folder lists
« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2015, 09:08:12 pm »
The wording was meant to imply that you'd be syncing

"as a folder that contains incoming messages (so you'll get notifications, and it will be kept up to date just like the inbox is"

and also

"as opposed to folders that have special meaning, like Drafts or Sent"

and NOT to mean

"messages from all folders marked with Sync as Incoming will be combined into a single Inbox folder"

I'd be happy to consider a change in wording to better convey this meaning, both in the app's settings and in the FAQ on the web site (as English is not my native language).
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Re: Choose the order of folder lists
« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2015, 10:51:11 pm »
The wording was meant to imply that you'd be syncing

"as a folder that contains incoming messages (so you'll get notifications, and it will be kept up to date just like the inbox is"

and also

"as opposed to folders that have special meaning, like Drafts or Sent"

and NOT to mean

"messages from all folders marked with Sync as Incoming will be combined into a single Inbox folder"

I'd be happy to consider a change in wording to better convey this meaning, both in the app's settings and in the FAQ on the web site (as English is not my native language).

@Kostya:
To make it more clear I recommend to modify the German translation as follows:

"Sync as incoming" -> "Sync als Posteingang" (instead of: "Als eingegangene Nachricht")

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Re: Choose the order of folder lists
« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2015, 11:15:49 pm »
Thank you (merged) but is it possible to somehow imply that it's "As *another* incoming folder" (to delineate from "As *the* Inbox")?
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