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skreddy57

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Archiving Gmail messages
« on: March 05, 2013, 03:45:02 am »
AM works very well with my Outlook.com and me.com accounts (thanks for fixing the me.com login issue!). But on Gmail - my main account - I like to archive some messages rather than delete them. How can I set up AM so I can choose whether to archive or delete any given message?

Kostya Vasilyev

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Re: Archiving Gmail messages
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2013, 03:09:32 am »
There isn't a direct support for Gmail's archiving logic.

(which needs to have all labels removed from a message, not just the one whose folder you're in at the time... and Gmail's "remove label" is mapped to "delete now" at IMAP level )
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Re: Archiving Gmail messages
« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2013, 04:47:10 am »
Ok, thanks. Is there a recommended workaround?

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Re: Archiving Gmail messages
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2013, 02:45:56 am »
If you set up your own folder on the server, and then Move messages there, I suppose that would be a way to organize.....
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Re: Archiving Gmail messages
« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2013, 02:55:20 am »
Argh!

I'm a longtime K9 user looking for something better, and while AquaMail is way slicker to use than K9, there are a few little things that are frustratingly missing in Aqua. This is one of them.

Kostya, while I understand that Google has mapped "remove label" to the IMAP "delete not" command, somehow K9 is doing it just fine.

In K9, I can either be reading a message directly, or I can select one or multiple messages in the Folder view, and one of the buttons in the button bar (right next to Delete) is the Archive button. When pressed, it performs the same function as the Gmail Archive button: the message(s) wind up OUT of my Inbox and visible in Gmail's "All Mail" tag.

So it is certainly possible, somehow, and it's a feature I certainly miss already. Any chance you can take another look?

-Warr




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Re: Archiving Gmail messages
« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2013, 01:10:27 am »
I second that. Intergrate more Gmail functions if you guys want this app to have an advantage over other apps.

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Re: Archiving Gmail messages
« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2013, 05:05:05 am »
K9 does not archive the same way as standard Gmail app. At least it didn't last time I checked.

I agree it would be a nice feature, but... Other things to do, yada yada yada, Exchange, incomprehensible mumbling, 50+ developers working on K9, inaudible....

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Re: Archiving Gmail messages
« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2013, 04:58:10 pm »
Sad how those 50+ developers could never quite deliver a stable platform though, yet one guy working in his bedroom somehow managed to do just that.

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Re: Archiving Gmail messages
« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2013, 06:18:16 pm »
Sad how those 50+ developers could never quite deliver a stable platform though, yet one guy working in his bedroom somehow managed to do just that.
It is all in the communication and the motivation. There are enormous risks in running a one person project, but if you compare this with a multi person project, the risks still there but are different.
In the one-person project, ensuring some variable does not go out of range (for example) is necessarily one person's responsibility. Ensuring you don't break your self-imposed architecture is only your responsibility. No-one else's. On a multi-person project, you get silly things like interfaces not quite matching, so developer A does not realise it has become his task to range check all the data passed through an interface to B's module. B on the other hand hasn't really thought about it either, and hopes for the best. Along comes a parameter that has an unexpected value and ..... Bang.
Also, if a project has as many as 20 on it, either these need to be grouped into teams of (say) four or five, or the communication overheads weigh the project down. And as for 50 - this looks like 50 people working very part-time.
I know open-source-style projects seem to cope with many, many people making small contributions, seemingly in ad-hoc fashion, but I believe the communication problem is still there, it is just difficult to pick out. Very large open source projects seem to evolve quite slowly. Often they are still essentially held together by a single-minded person who ensures that at least the main line of development keeps working, and he probably has to work as hard as the lone developer.
On the one person project, though the developer seems to have freedom to steer his project where he will, there us a risk that he will give in to every request, try to, or spend his effort arguing why he should or should not. He may eventually 'break' a nice architecture he created in the first place, and which may be his support that keeps the project in good order. This will lead either to poor quality or demotivation. Demotivation leads ultimately to no support. He also has the challenge of testing and review - ideally this needs ''another pair of eyes''.

Dave

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Re: Archiving Gmail messages
« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2013, 02:37:09 am »
I've looked at K-9 source code a little. It's beautiful.

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Re: Archiving Gmail messages
« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2013, 03:50:34 am »
Death apocalypse by Hieronymus Bosch?
But what is the first one called?

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Re: Archiving Gmail messages
« Reply #11 on: October 28, 2013, 04:37:54 am »
"The triumph of death" by Peter Brueghel (maybe "The battle between carnival and lent" would be more appropriate, actually).

The first one is a René Magritte

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Re: Archiving Gmail messages
« Reply #12 on: October 28, 2013, 04:55:09 am »
I find all Hieronymus Bosch and some breugel to be very disturbing. But at least Breughel could paint much happier subjects. I suspect both of them must have used some powerful illegal substances! I really hope your code does not make you think of triumph of death.....

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Re: Archiving Gmail messages
« Reply #13 on: October 28, 2013, 10:31:45 pm »
I didn't mean it in a morbid way, just looks messy :)

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