Author Topic: How to disable selectors in AquaMail?  (Read 9515 times)

lukaszgo1

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How to disable selectors in AquaMail?
« on: June 24, 2018, 05:48:57 pm »
Hi everyone,
i want to disable selectors present on the message list after each threat  or message. I've browsed options, but i cannot find  setting to do it. Any help would be appreciated.
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Kostya Vasilyev

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Re: How to disable selectors in AquaMail?
« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2018, 10:45:56 pm »
What are "selectors"?

Contact images?

Checkboxes?

There are settings for both in app settings -> message list.
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Re: How to disable selectors in AquaMail?
« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2018, 12:33:17 pm »
Hi,
I'm honestly not sure.
I'm blind and i'm using Talkback which is build-in Android screen reader. When swiping through message list after  each message or thread Talkback announce selector. I have no idea what is displayed visually sorry about that.

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Re: How to disable selectors in AquaMail?
« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2018, 07:21:22 pm »
Thanks for your answer. When using Talkback we are most of the time not exploring the screen, but rather using swipes to move focus from the  next element to the other. In this case to move from message to message i need to swipe twice, because of this selector which is really inefficient. I'm aware, that pressing this selector will select message or thread, however I'm able to achieve the same result with double tapping and long pressing on the message itself. Due to that i want to ask if it will be possible to add an option to disable those selectors? Thanks
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Re: How to disable selectors in AquaMail?
« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2018, 04:30:52 pm »
The selector is actually only on the left side of each message list item.

If you don't touch specifically on the left side - I expect it should not trigger. Can you try?
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Re: How to disable selectors in AquaMail?
« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2018, 08:13:29 pm »
Hi,
When using Talkback we are not touching the screen in random places, but we are exploring in item after item using swipes to the right for the next element ant to the left for the previous one. It can be compared to moving with arrow keys on the computer. So when i want to move accessibility focus to the next message i'm not exploring my  screen with my finger trying to find it but i'm simply swiping to the right. The problem is that after  each message there is this selector which forces me to swipe twice. I understand, that it might be useful to have it in some situations, but for Talkback users is simply redundant we are able to achieve the same thing by double tapping and pressing on specific message.

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Re: How to disable selectors in AquaMail?
« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2018, 09:18:16 pm »
Um, are you saying that swiping to the right moves the selection to the next message in the list which actually down not right? Or to its selection right now actually.

Sorry I don't know much about talkback - is that (swipe to right means find next view down to move to) one of its standard gestures?
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Re: How to disable selectors in AquaMail?
« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2018, 05:52:48 pm »
Um, are you saying that swiping to the right moves the selection to the next message in the list which actually down not right? Or to its selection right now actually.

Sorry I don't know much about talkback - is that (swipe to right means find next view down to move to) one of its standard gestures?
Swiping to the right moves Talkback focus to the next item on the screen. In this case next item to the each message is this selector so to move Talkback focus from message to message you have to swipe once to move to the selector and the second time  to move to the next message which isn't really efficient.

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Re: How to disable selectors in AquaMail?
« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2018, 10:29:52 pm »
OK - got it. Will file it as an enhancement idea.
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Re: How to disable selectors in AquaMail?
« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2018, 11:13:09 pm »
OK - got it. Will file it as an enhancement idea.
Thanks. It  will be real efficiency boost for Talkback users.

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Re: How to disable selectors in AquaMail?
« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2018, 08:00:32 pm »
Better late than never I guess.

Added in this version.

https://www.aqua-mail.com/download/AquaMail-market-1.17.0-1207-dev-36ec4552a997.apk

The new setting is in the "message list" section about 2/3 down, labeled "Selectors" / "Larger tap areas to select and star messages". Defaults to enabled which is how it is right now - but can be turned off.
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Re: How to disable selectors in AquaMail?
« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2018, 09:52:22 pm »
Re: Not able to find the new setting. Would you please posr a screenshot showing it? Thx

It only shows when TalkBack is installed and enabled.
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Re: How to disable selectors in AquaMail?
« Reply #12 on: August 11, 2018, 10:30:16 pm »
Better late than never I guess.

Added in this version.

https://www.aqua-mail.com/download/AquaMail-market-1.17.0-1207-dev-36ec4552a997.apk [nofollow]

Many many thanks. You cannot even imagine how much of a difference it makes.

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Re: How to disable selectors in AquaMail?
« Reply #13 on: August 12, 2018, 11:37:05 am »
I would add 'the connection to TalkBack' in the description, even though this option is only visible when TalkBack is installed / activated.

Furthermore, I recommend enabling the option 'Selectors' automatically when AquaMail detects that TalkBack is installed and activated. This would be much easier to handle for people who are using/activating TalkBack on their device.
« Last Edit: August 12, 2018, 11:59:10 am by mikeone »

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Re: How to disable selectors in AquaMail?
« Reply #14 on: August 14, 2018, 09:36:53 pm »
Re: Samsung s9+ without TalkBack (only Accessibility is enabled), and the option is visible.

Accessibility meaning - "explore by touch" and a voice tells you what you're touching?

What's the exact phone setting?

I should have worded that more carefully - we ask Android if "voice assisted touch exploration" is enabled, we don't look for TalkBack specifically, there could be other services providing the same feature.

The setting is enabled by default, if "touch exploration" is on - the "touch proxy areas" will be there, same as they've always been.
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