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PlayNice

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Re: Possibly to go back to version before update? (New update stinks)
« Reply #60 on: February 25, 2017, 12:08:53 am »
Wow, pretty sad that the developer and whomever these other people are (Mobisystems employees? ParisGeek/MikeOne) making fun of other apps. That completely turns me off from wanting to continue using *your* app. Good luck, I am outta here for good now.

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Kostya Vasilyev

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Re: Possibly to go back to version before update? (New update stinks)
« Reply #61 on: February 25, 2017, 12:39:31 am »
Re: That completely turns me off from wanting to continue using *your* app. Good luck, I am outta here for good now.

I was not making fun of K9. A very competent mail app with some features that Aqua Mail doesn't have (but the opposite is true too).

However:

Their design is dated, it's a fact, and they've been getting complaints about it for a long time. So they want to update it.

And:

When they do, the direction they're going (and this direction is to a large extent is set by Google, and also by user expectations), when they "make the design more modern and clean and airy", all those good words --

-- they too will get a lot of complains about "wasted space", "humongous font sizes", "where did the icons along the bottom go" and more, just like we did with our design update.

There isn't really anything funny about that.

Some users want "modern", others want "tried and true", then there is fashion (yep) and last but not least, technical capabilities ("icons along the bottom" removed by Google from Material Design theme).

The K9 people may not know this yet, but they will get those complaints when their design is done, and will have to decide how to deal with them.


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Re: Possibly to go back to version before update? (New update stinks)
« Reply #62 on: February 25, 2017, 10:20:02 am »
Wow, pretty sad that the developer and whomever these other people are (Mobisystems employees? ParisGeek/MikeOne) making fun of other apps. That completely turns me off from wanting to continue using *your* app. Good luck, I am outta here for good now.

Former AquaMail user who will never again recommend it
As mentioned and explained by Kostya there was definitely no bashing about k9 app from our side. At least this wasn't intended.

I'm sorry if this impression arose.


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Re: Possibly to go back to version before update? (New update stinks)
« Reply #63 on: February 25, 2017, 01:35:57 pm »
Re: I think that future k9 layout is nice.

It is. Modern, clean and all those words. My point was that -- when they release it, they will get many complaints about it from the more conservative users, and there won't be a magic way to avoid that situation.
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Re: Possibly to go back to version before update? (New update stinks)
« Reply #64 on: February 25, 2017, 01:51:17 pm »
 @ kostya  haven't used k9 for almost 2 years now but from what I read on forums it seems they still haven't addressed the doze issue on 6 and 7 and lots of users are migrating to other apps because of this.

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Re: Possibly to go back to version before update? (New update stinks)
« Reply #65 on: February 26, 2017, 12:16:14 am »
Wow, pretty sad that the developer and whomever these other people are (Mobisystems employees? ParisGeek/MikeOne) making fun of other apps. That completely turns me off from wanting to continue using *your* app. Good luck, I am outta here for good now.

Former AquaMail user who will never again recommend it

Good luck wherever you are going, a very sensitive person.
It's a pity that your very shallow reading of the forum will deprive you of a very good app. Hopefully the grass will be greener for your elsewhere.

If you read the forum with a little bit more attention, you would've realized that both Paris Geek and Mikeone are just fans and enthusiastic users of Aquamail. Moreover, as far as I can see, Mikeone had not even said anything about K9 in this thread (until today, after your response).

I suspect that you are angry for a completely different reason...



(I started this post some 6-8 hours ago, but was distracted before I could post it.)

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Re: Possibly to go back to version before update? (New update stinks)
« Reply #66 on: February 28, 2017, 04:54:38 am »
I only have one nitpick to make re the latest version. I make use of Cc, Bcc and Reply-to fields (they are filled in beforehand) and I use them about half the time. When I do not use them, I had gotten used to click on the "X", located at the far-right of the (Cc, Bcc, etc.) line to clear the field. Now, with the latest version, I am being forced to position my cursor at the end of the already filled in text, and backspace once. Clicking on the "X" was easiest to use.

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Re: Possibly to go back to version before update? (New update stinks)
« Reply #67 on: February 28, 2017, 05:31:57 pm »
I only have one nitpick to make re the latest version. I make use of Cc, Bcc and Reply-to fields (they are filled in beforehand) and I use them about half the time. When I do not use them, I had gotten used to click on the "X", located at the far-right of the (Cc, Bcc, etc.) line to clear the field. Now, with the latest version, I am being forced to position my cursor at the end of the already filled in text, and backspace once. Clicking on the "X" was easiest to use.
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Re: Possibly to go back to version before update? (New update stinks)
« Reply #68 on: February 28, 2017, 08:24:28 pm »
Re: I only have one nitpick to make re the latest version. I make use of Cc, Bcc and Reply-to fields (they are filled in beforehand) and I use them about half the time.

Our designer is already aware of the issue, we're hoping to have a fix in 1.9.

And hey, the designer is here on the forum since yesterday: https://www.aqua-mail.com/forum/index.php?topic=5466.0 and other messages -- so maybe he'll see and respond too.

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Re: Possibly to go back to version before update? (New update stinks)
« Reply #69 on: March 25, 2017, 12:40:35 am »


Ok, enable Floating action button and bar in Look and feel
Changing those look and feel settings do nothing when I enable them on my Samsung Note 4 using SwiftKey keyboard. When I enable these nothing changes.

Another annoyance is the FAQ and support is written in developer vernacular not language used by the average user. Other nuances like icon vs button may seem simple issues but searching in these god-forsaken message boards is terrible at best.

Please tell me what I am doing wrong with regard to enabling my floating [buttons| icons | actions | toolbar] whatever is called today by Google, so I can make this new UI somewhat just friendly.

I have been a huge fan of aquamail and Kostya, but this release is really trying my patience.

Why wouldn't you have figured out a way to save a user's settings, map them to the new paradigm and then walk the user through a setup widget where there was no direct analogue to that setting.

I would really like to revert to the previous version. I have worked in software for 20+ years and releasing a code drop with such visual impact on its users without warning or adequate documentation is not good practice.

I have been a huge fan of aquamail and Kostya, but this release is really trying my patience.

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Re: Possibly to go back to version before update? (New update stinks)
« Reply #70 on: March 25, 2017, 11:57:58 am »
I only have one nitpick to make re the latest version. I make use of Cc, Bcc and Reply-to fields (they are filled in beforehand) and I use them about half the time. When I do not use them, I had gotten used to click on the "X", located at the far-right of the (Cc, Bcc, etc.) line to clear the field. Now, with the latest version, I am being forced to position my cursor at the end of the already filled in text, and backspace once. Clicking on the "X" was easiest to use.
Your suggestion is now (re)implemented and available version 1.9.0-242-dev:

https://www.aqua-mail.com/forum/index.php?topic=5517.msg33203#msg33203

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Re: Possibly to go back to version before update? (New update stinks)
« Reply #71 on: April 17, 2017, 09:26:14 pm »
Until now I did not update Aqua Mail from 1.6 because I noticed the complaints about the new UI in advance.
Accidentally I updated Aqua Mail today. And I must say I really hate the new UI.
First I tried to get the old look and feel back, but fiddling with the settings didn't get me the old look back so that I reverted with much trouble to the old version.
I am really angry that this update wasted so much of my time!

And instead of wasting all user's time by letting them all figure out themselves how to restore the old layout:
PLEASE ADD A BUTTON IN THE SETTINGS to restore all options to the way it best resembles the old layout!

Thanks.

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Re: Possibly to go back to version before update? (New update stinks)
« Reply #72 on: April 18, 2017, 08:20:39 pm »
App settings -> message list -> turn OFF "indent previews"

... -> turn ON "group by date"

... -> turn ON "attachments"

App settings -> look and feel -> make sure that the Floating Action Bar and Floating Context Bar are both ON

... -> set "color theme" to "light (material design)"

... -> set "title bar and icon bar color" to 5677fc (on the HEX tab)
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Re: Possibly to go back to version before update? (New update stinks)
« Reply #73 on: April 23, 2017, 01:57:31 pm »
Thank you for your hints. I can't really post a screenshot without exposing my mail addresses and emails, but I give it another try customizing it to my liking.
I got some questions and improvement suggestions for the whole customizing experience:

1) It's great that there is a reset button for all colors so that you can return to them. It would be even nicer if the color selection dialog
    would show the actual default value. E.g. when pressing 'reset' and opening the dialog, the "Exact" tab does not show a value.
    I'd like to use the default color for read messages, but make it a little darker.
2) It would be nice to have more colors on the "Common" tab to choose from. Even white and black and grey tones are missing.
3) I am using the dark theme. How can I customize the very first line in the message list which shows the email account and the message size?
    Currently it looks so distracting because the text has got a different background color and is what stands out most in the whole list, while I
    prefer the subjects to stand out. I don't particularily care about to which of my accounts the message was sent to. Can I disable displaying it completely?
4) There are not many customizing options for the account list or I missed them. To me it seems there is more vertical space between mail folders than before
    and I really would like to reduce it. Is this possible? Also the fonts look somehow different and I could not find how to configure them (I already turned off the "Thin fonts" option).

Thanks,
flynn
   

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Re: Possibly to go back to version before update? (New update stinks)
« Reply #74 on: April 23, 2017, 09:44:12 pm »
5) How can I customize the font size of the group header in the message list? I can set the group header color and group text color, but as far
    as I can see not the font size and I'd like to increase it.

Thanks,
flynn