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Kostya Vasilyev

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Version 1.8.0-175-dev - "work in progress", not in Google Play
« on: February 08, 2017, 12:33:34 am »
https://www.aqua-mail.com/download/AquaMail-market-1.8.0-175-dev-4d861a617811.apk

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+ Design adjustments - "contact letters" in message list are now a bit brighter (in the light themes) and darker (in the dark themes)

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+ Правки дизайна - "цветные буквы" в списке сообщений стали немного ярче (в светлых темах) и темнее (в тёмных темах)
« Last Edit: February 10, 2017, 10:08:55 pm by Kostya Vasilyev, Aqua Mail »
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Re: Version 1.8.0-175-dev - "work in progress", not in Google Play
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2017, 12:41:05 am »
+ Design adjustments - "contact letters" in message list are now a bit brighter (in the light themes) and darker (in the dark themes)

Oops, I was hoping that there would be a user option to select (I liked the more pale colors in light themes, not the brighter ones).

However, there is always on user who wants a thing different than it is. This time it's me ;).

Don't mind, thank you.

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Re: Version 1.8.0-175-dev - "work in progress", not in Google Play
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2017, 01:46:16 am »
Re: Design adjustments - "contact letters" in message list are now a bit brighter (in the light themes) and darker (in the dark themes)

Better - thank you.

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Re: Version 1.8.0-175-dev - "work in progress", not in Google Play
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2017, 07:04:20 pm »
@Paris Geek Thx for exploring.

This is why I would have preferred a user option to select pale/bright.
Users can decide, if contact icons are round or square. Color would be similar.

But there is no need to discuss further, these are so called 1st world problems... ;)

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Re: Version 1.8.0-175-dev - "work in progress", not in Google Play
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2017, 07:25:33 pm »
I agree with you and support a user option to select pale/bright.
+1 to this request. Seriously design team, why support minute levels of control over minor design elements while denying the ability to alter a major attribute that has profound influence on the overall 'look and feel' of the application? Pale colors are not everyone's preference; allow me to choose from a larger pallet!

1927 Henry Ford: Any customer can have a car painted any color that he wants so long as it is black
2017 MobiSystems: Any customer can choose their preferred color scheme in AquaMail so long as it is pale

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Re: Version 1.8.0-175-dev - "work in progress", not in Google Play
« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2017, 08:53:43 pm »
Seriously design team, why support minute levels of control over minor design elements while denying the ability to alter a major attribute that has profound influence on the overall 'look and feel' of the application?
While I understand your sentiment, I also understand the view of the designer.
Almost every more-or-less established company has a "branding" design (logo, logotype, ...). That creates a brand recognition. That goes with the product. And as an employee, when you are using the logotype and related elements, e.g. for stationery/presentation, you may have some flexibility, but on the large scale, the overall look allows everybody to recognize the brand.
You wouldn't expect a blue Coke bottle label or a red Mountain Dew can, would you?

That could be a reason why the "major attribute that has profound influence on the overall 'look and feel' of the application" of the design is not changing, while "minor design elements" can be configured.

But that says /me, who almost never changes the default color scheme of the software. (Well, I switched from the "light" to  the"dark" color scheme in my Android e-mail clients to save the battery.)

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Re: Version 1.8.0-175-dev - "work in progress", not in Google Play
« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2017, 09:51:13 pm »
Seriously design team, why support minute levels of control over minor design elements while denying the ability to alter a major attribute that has profound influence on the overall 'look and feel' of the application?
While I understand your sentiment, I also understand the view of the designer.
Almost every more-or-less established company has a "branding" design (logo, logotype, ...). That creates a brand recognition. That goes with the product. And as an employee, when you are using the logotype and related elements, e.g. for stationery/presentation, you may have some flexibility, but on the large scale, the overall look allows everybody to recognize the brand.
Yep - I get it (brand identity). Can still rally for change/flexibility recognizing it probably won't happen. Like you I rarely change themes beyond light/dark but find the pale colors recently adopted by AquaMail uninspired at best. If the ability presented itself I would likely make the effort to switch back to a bolder presentation.

Also not sure pale leaves a favorable first impression but my judgment in such areas pales (ouch!) in comparison to others as my spouse will quickly attest. :)

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Re: Version 1.8.0-175-dev - "work in progress", not in Google Play
« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2017, 10:09:48 pm »
Have you noticed that pale colors have changed to brighter ones with dev175, after I asked Design team to get brighter colors? The new ones are bright enough, as attested by my wife. She's now using again AquaMail (she refused to use AquaMail with pale colors).
I did and registered my 'thanks' for the incremental improvement in the corresponding thread.

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Re: Version 1.8.0-175-dev - "work in progress", not in Google Play
« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2017, 09:42:09 pm »
Re: I agree with you and support a user option to select pale/bright.

The updated (as of now) brighter colors are not as "poke your eyes out with a rusty nail" bright as they were before (MobiSystems), so personally I don't feel that a "pale / bright" setting is necessary.

And then, as already noted above, the designer did take in the feedback that his initial color choices were too pale and made them brighter.

A happy consensus (on chip colors) then?

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1927 Henry Ford: Any customer can have a car painted any color that he wants so long as it is black
2017 MobiSystems: Any customer can choose their preferred color scheme in AquaMail so long as it is pale

One of the most apparent color changes is that of the app's action bar - "overall app color". Used to be a "juicy blue" and now it's a dark cyan.

And even though this has a lot of relevance / importance for the app's branding (that blue app? blue mail, erhm, type mail. the cyan one? aqua, of course!) --

-- that color can still be changed (in app settings -> look and feel) and in 1.8 it can be done in the "light" and the "dark" themes (before, only in the "material" theme).

So personally I don't feel that we're going backwards, quite the opposite.
Creating debug logs for diagnostics: https://www.aqua-mail.com/troubleshooting/

The official FAQ: https://www.aqua-mail.com/faq/

Лог-файлы для диагностики: https://www.aqua-mail.com/ru/troubleshooting/

Вопросы и ответы: https://www.aqua-mail.com/ru/faq/

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Re: Version 1.8.0-175-dev - "work in progress", not in Google Play
« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2017, 11:16:22 pm »
A happy consensus (on chip colors) then?
It would seem semi-pale chip colors are the new thing (much like Google's FAB); the changes in dev175 appear to strike an accord as the forums have been quiet on this topic for several days. See what happens when it goes live.
 
So personally I don't feel that we're going backwards, quite the opposite.
Agreed looking at the big picture. Change is not always easy but one needs to keep things in perceptive. eMail still flows in, no loss of livelihood, food/water remain accessible. Apple and Microsoft have done far more disruptive things to their user base and still survive.