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corratge

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Delete when Download Option in POP3?
« on: July 05, 2016, 06:23:22 pm »
There is an option or a way to configure the
AquaMail to Delete the mensages from the
phone when are download from the server?


Kostya Vasilyev

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Re: Delete when Download Option in POP3?
« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2016, 08:16:35 pm »
I assume you meant "delete from the server any messages downloaded into the app".

No, and there won't be:

I don't think a mobile device is an appropriate proverbial "basket" (to put "all your things into").
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corratge

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Re: Delete when Download Option in POP3?
« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2016, 10:05:52 pm »
There is many situations and cases of uses, the only app that i see to have this option is typeApp(aka typeMail,blu mail) but i don't like it, i like to use AquaMail

In the case of my country Cuba,
the mayority of people uses only the phone to access to the @nauta.cu
because this and mms is the only service that can be consumed via mobile data
and no use any other device,(even some people only buy android smartphones to use these service)
when the mail is full in the server (50MB) they need to do a manual empty,(another app if the user knows or have to go to one  Etecsa Telecomunications company office)
if change the phone or do a factory reset or configure again the mail
the phone downloads again the mail and the mobile data has cost for already download mail

the fact is this feacture is useful and all mobile apps(android,blackberry,iphone...etc) don't have because the reason that you say that is the true in the must cases

but we are the exception that need or  use as a basket

Many people use and like AquaMail in Cuba have useful feactures,
it competes whit the stock app, TypeMail and K-9 variants
the only that people like more TypeMail is this option(but other feactures are not present)
It has a option named  "Delete Mensages from server"
and the user can chose :
  • Never
  • When deletes from the recicler
  • When Download

And if you implements this simple feacture you gain a lot of users of Cuba that will go to change to AquaMail

Kostya Vasilyev

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Re: Delete when Download Option in POP3?
« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2016, 11:02:39 pm »
TypeMail has "delete from mail server after checking mail"?

Wonder how much of your mail history they store on *their* servers...
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corratge

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Re: Delete when Download Option in POP3?
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2016, 11:48:42 pm »
TypeMail has "delete from mail server after checking mail"?
Wonder how much of your mail history they store on *their* servers...


First I think boths are wonderful aplications, I like this feacture of TypeMail  but I like more AquaMail interface , I prefer AquaMail is more Android Designed i tought

I only want mention TypeMail have it, and want to explain that this feacture that in the common sense is not useful as you say,
here it is and saves money in mobile data

TypeMail no store any data in their servers  and if try it can't (from movile data you have a apn called 'nauta' and only have acces to  smpt.nauta.cu, pop.nauta.cu, imap.nauta.cu)
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corratge

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Re: Delete when Download Option in POP3?
« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2016, 12:28:39 am »
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I understand the situation with Pop3 in Cuba, but AquaMail must not follow Typeapp in deleting after downloading.
Ok you don't understand that is a option something if you want to activate, you active?
Is my English  so bad?

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Re: Delete when Download Option in POP3?
« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2016, 03:10:13 am »
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I understand the situation with Pop3 in Cuba, but AquaMail must not follow Typeapp in deleting after downloading.
Ok you don't understand that is a option something if you want to activate, you active?
Is my English  so bad?

You English is very good and I understand what you are requesting
I'm saying that AquaMail has always indicated that it does not delete messages on the server side unless the user deletes them intentionally in the app.
Implementing something else now would be misleading to existing and future users, even if it's an option not activated by default. It's my opinion as a long time user of AquaMail.

@Paris Geek:
There were other things that were absent in Aquamail for long time, until Kostya was convinced by the use case presented by users. (Just one recent example: conversation threads by Sender+Subject (without the reference headers)).

Personally, I sympathize with @corratge and his situation.
So, while I understand the potential danger of this option for some users, I do not see much of a harm to "existing and (especially) future users", as long as a sufficient number of sufficiently scary warnings is given when one activates that option.

Besides, not all people need to keep their messages. Some people feel the same way about their e-mail messages as about other effectively "non-stored" (or semi-stored) conversations: phone call, SMS, skype/viber/snapchat/FB/... : you read it "as you go", and it is only important while it happens, but you don't need to keep the archive. Very few people are "re-reading their pager" messages. ;)

Of course, it is Kostya who will make hist decision.



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Re: Delete when Download Option in POP3?
« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2016, 09:49:20 am »
- "Select All" selects "visible" messages (by default) or downloaded messages (by option). Never "All messages on server"
... unless you download all messages (and maintain a zero-inbox)

... And, strictly speaking, the proposed option in POP3 would also allow deleting "all downloaded messages" on server, not "all messages on server".

... but, as I said earlier, I understand your concern very well.

mikeone

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Re: Delete when Download Option in POP3?
« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2016, 12:05:44 am »
TypeMail has "delete from mail server after checking mail"?
Wonder how much of your mail history they store on *their* servers...
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TypeMail no store any data in their servers[/color and if try it can't (from movile data you have a apn called 'nauta' and only have acces to  smpt.nauta.cu, pop.nauta.cu, imap.nauta.cu)
Indeed they store your messages on their servers, since TypeMail / BlueMail is a cloud-based app:

https://bluemail.me/privacy/
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While Blue Mail usually does not store your password to these email accounts, the service may securely store some emails on a temporary basis in order to deliver them to you as quickly as possible and keep track of your deferred messages.