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Jim Taylor

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Aliases
« on: July 04, 2016, 05:35:39 pm »
My email passes through  3rd party spam server. I have set up an alias so that when someone replies to my email, it goes to the alias, but when someone receives my email, it still shows the spam filter email address on the incoming email.

When I send an email, I want the recipient to only see the alias.

With Outlook mail it works fine, but i am trying to switch to Aquamail Pro.

Can this be done?
« Last Edit: July 04, 2016, 07:28:39 pm by Jim Taylor »

Jim Taylor

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Re: Aliases
« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2016, 07:28:16 pm »
The Android and Desktop apps work fine. I am trying to switch to AquaMail on my Android, but want recipients of my emails to only see my alias email address. Thanks.

StR

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Re: Aliases
« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2016, 10:27:28 pm »
The Android and Desktop apps work fine. I am trying to switch to AquaMail on my Android, but want recipients of my emails to only see my alias email address. Thanks.
If you have AquaMail Pro (paid version, $5 or so), - you can use so-called "identities", where you configure any number of aliases for your e-mail account. Choose that identity as the "default" for sending (in the options).

Alternatively (and this can be done even in the free version), - you can configure the account with your alias as the e-mail address, but then you'd need to configure IMAP and SMTP servers manually, so that they and the login credentials correspond to your actual account information.


Jim Taylor

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Re: Aliases
« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2016, 04:02:23 am »
Thanks, but i cannot seem to get the identity to be the outgoing email identity when received. When the recipient replies the identity is correct. Bottom line, I want the recipient never to see my login email, only my identity.

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Re: Aliases
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2016, 07:10:04 am »
We can try to help you, but more information is needed.
Please, describe how you have the account and the identity(ies) configured in Aquamail.

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Re: Aliases
« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2016, 02:33:17 pm »
In Outlook I set the User Information:
Your Name
Email (my personal email address wihc is what I want everyone to see)

It does not ask for a login password

Then It asks for In & Out server information which is that of the spam service i use

Then it asks login information in which I enter my login from my spam service from which I download all my email.

So far, I do not see that in AqualMail Pro. It asks for my email and password and so far all I can figure out is to have my REPLY email to be my personal address. All emails arrive and show my spam email  address.

Any ideas?

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Re: Aliases
« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2016, 03:47:57 pm »
In Outlook I set the User Information:
Your Name
Email (my personal email address wihc is what I want everyone to see)

It does not ask for a login password

Then It asks for In & Out server information which is that of the spam service i use

Then it asks login information in which I enter my login from my spam service from which I download all my email.

So far, I do not see that in AqualMail Pro. It asks for my email and password and so far all I can figure out is to have my REPLY email to be my personal address. All emails arrive and show my spam email  address.

Any ideas?
Based on what you described so far, it sounds that you haven't set the additional identity yet.

I have to run now, maybe others will guide you where in the account settings you configure the identities (aliases).
In the mean time, you can benefit from reading about aliases in the FAQ.
Sorry, it is in the "sticky" threads in the adjacent forum:
http://www.aqua-mail.com/forum/index.php?board=2.0
« Last Edit: July 05, 2016, 08:07:01 pm by StR »

Kostya Vasilyev

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Re: Aliases
« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2016, 08:21:49 pm »
To add an identity to your account in AquaMail -- long press the account -> identities.

And yes, that link posted by StR is good.

Please also note that if you meant "Outlook the mail provider" (e.g. Hotmail.com, Outlook.com) --

-- they (the mail server) rewrite the From address, replacing it with the account's "primary identity" which can only be changed on the web site.

At least they used to. Even if Aqua did its job and sent the identity's "From". Affects other apps too (e.g. Thunderbird, not sure about Outlook for Windows / Android).

The way around it is to configure the identity in AquaMail with its own outgoing server settings, so sending from the identity doesn't get routed through the account's mail server where the From would get re-written.

Only applies to Outlook.com / Hotmail.

With Gmail, as long as you've configured your identities on Gmail web site (as "additional addresses to send from"), you can let the identity in AquaMail use the account's outgoing mail server (smtp.gmail.com), and it will preserve the identity's address in From.
Creating debug logs for diagnostics: https://www.aqua-mail.com/troubleshooting/

The official FAQ: https://www.aqua-mail.com/faq/

Лог-файлы для диагностики: https://www.aqua-mail.com/ru/troubleshooting/

Вопросы и ответы: https://www.aqua-mail.com/ru/faq/

Kostya Vasilyev

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Re: Aliases
« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2016, 08:06:55 pm »
The silly rewriting done by Hotmail seems to have stopped.

Please note that my Hotmail account has been upgraded to the new server backend -- something MS has been doing gradually with all accounts over the last few months.

So the "From rewriting" discussion above is a thing of the past. Using an alias inside a Hotmail account is now just as easy as with other mail services. Not necessary to configure the alias with its own sending server.
Creating debug logs for diagnostics: https://www.aqua-mail.com/troubleshooting/

The official FAQ: https://www.aqua-mail.com/faq/

Лог-файлы для диагностики: https://www.aqua-mail.com/ru/troubleshooting/

Вопросы и ответы: https://www.aqua-mail.com/ru/faq/

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Re: Aliases
« Reply #9 on: July 06, 2016, 09:44:56 pm »
The silly rewriting done by Hotmail seems to have stopped.
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So the "From rewriting" discussion above is a thing of the past. Using an alias inside a Hotmail account is now just as easy as with other mail services. Not necessary to configure the alias with its own sending server.

I am confused (I am not using Hotmail): Do you mean that there was no way to use aliases with Hotmail, and now it is possible, or do you mean that now it is possible even without configuring the alias in the Hotmail account?
Assuming that Hotmail people are not complete idiots, I expect it is the former. The latter would've been a suicide: it would have opened a door for spammers easily spoofing any arbitrary address in "From".


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Re: Aliases
« Reply #10 on: July 06, 2016, 10:17:52 pm »
When using "alias has its own outgoing server" -- not necessary to configure alias in web mail, whatever the mail service.

When NOT using "alias has its own outgoing server" which is the default -- i.e. the app would send messages "From: alias" through the parent account's outgoing server:

Then it's always necessary to configure the alias in the mail service (web mail), so the outgoing mail server allows login as "the account" and "From: alias" (a different address).

Now Hotmail:

Before the recent / ongoing / still finishing Hotmail server upgrade --

-- Hotmail's SMTP would *always* rewrite the "From: alias" and make it "From: primary identity", where "primary identity" was a Hotmail thing, initially the account's address, but could be something else, in web mail settings.

Now, since the server upgrade --

-- Hotmail's SMTP does *not* rewrite the "From alias" and so it's possible to send messages from the alias, from AquaMail, through the account's (Hotmail) outgoing mail server.

The alias still needs to be configured in web mail, just like with other mail services.
Creating debug logs for diagnostics: https://www.aqua-mail.com/troubleshooting/

The official FAQ: https://www.aqua-mail.com/faq/

Лог-файлы для диагностики: https://www.aqua-mail.com/ru/troubleshooting/

Вопросы и ответы: https://www.aqua-mail.com/ru/faq/

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Re: Aliases
« Reply #11 on: July 06, 2016, 11:10:53 pm »
Thank you!

The alias still needs to be configured in web mail, just like with other mail services.
That's what I was expecting, but wanted to confirm.