Author Topic: Best laid plans for after 1.6.0  (Read 28026 times)

Kostya Vasilyev

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Re: Best laid plans for after 1.6.0
« Reply #15 on: November 22, 2015, 03:44:19 pm »
Those two items, yes, definitely, I'm very aware, and expressing deep concern in relation to.

So with that in mind, my best efforts, concerning user convenience.

And all that.

However, "deep search" (searching multiple server folders at once) is a *bitch* with IMAP. Much easier for Exchange accounts. Not sure when / if that might happen.
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mikeone

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Re: Best laid plans for after 1.6.0
« Reply #16 on: November 23, 2015, 08:14:50 am »
Hi Kostya,
I have to add one more great suggestion from paras.desai:
• Create and add a link to the respective email when sharing message with Calendar or To-do App.
http://www.aqua-mail.com/forum/index.php?topic=2653.msg22272#msg22272

Davey126

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Re: Best laid plans for after 1.6.0
« Reply #17 on: November 25, 2015, 01:55:02 am »
Hi - love AquaMail! It's my daily driver and preferred email tool among the half dozen or so I use on various platforms. The recent addition of 'conversations' is a welcome enhancement - although I am still getting accustomed to the presentation.

At first I found the 'show position' banner a bit intrusive (lots of pixels on a small screen) for unthreaded mail and disabled it in settings. But I quickly missed the ability to know my position within a conversation. Which leads to a suggestion: include a sub-option that says something like 'only for conversations'.

Not sure if others see this as beneficial. From a developer perspective it would likely add complexity to the code vs a universal setting for all messages. Thought I'd throw it out for consideration.

Thanks as aways for all you do and hosting this forum where views can be openly shared. 

Kostya Vasilyev

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Re: Best laid plans for after 1.6.0
« Reply #18 on: November 25, 2015, 01:58:57 am »
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At first I found the 'show position' banner a bit intrusive (lots of pixels on a small screen) for unthreaded mail and disabled it in settings. But I quickly missed the ability to know my position within a conversation. Which leads to a suggestion: include a sub-option that says something like 'only for conversations'.

Not difficult to add in terms of coding -- however, it would make this information line "jump in and out" (let's say when swiping).

In terms of real estate -- this information line scrolls in sync with message text (since previous big update, 1.5.9) and message header, it's not in a fixed position where it's always taking up space.
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Re: Best laid plans for after 1.6.0
« Reply #19 on: November 25, 2015, 06:53:31 am »
Agreed - the visual distraction would be rather annoying (hadn't thought of that). I'll work with it a while longer and will likely get comfortable with the new banner. It seems to work best when swiping which I should do more of; great productivity tool. I tend to be fussy about first screen real estate and the importance of information presented; hence the reaction. BTW - also appreciate the changes introduced in 1.5.9, especially dynamic message headers. Lots smiles when I installed that version!

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Re: Best laid plans for after 1.6.0
« Reply #20 on: November 28, 2015, 08:49:26 am »
Aqua Mail is great. The only think I would like is the option for an email to show more than one label/folder as can be done with Gmail. Or is that already possible and I haven't found that option yet?

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Re: Best laid plans for after 1.6.0
« Reply #21 on: November 28, 2015, 09:34:54 am »
Yes, the popular mail apps are mostly cloud based (with the notable exception of Boxer, and Google's own Gmail app itself for non-Gmail accounts) and it works well for them.

I prefer the more traditional approach.

But...

First, Google made life very difficult for non-cloud based apps in Android 6, and it's only a matter of time before everyone runs that version (at least, or some Android 9). Same as now there are very few devices in use running < 4.0.3.

Second, most people don't seem to mind, or are even aware.
the Gmail app only offers push for gmail.  all external accounts are synced- min interval 15 minutes.  not a complete app in my opinion.

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Re: Best laid plans for after 1.6.0
« Reply #22 on: November 28, 2015, 11:33:04 am »
Regarding AquaMail on Marshmallow 6.0, I'd like to help answer any questions you have. 

First, let me say I've been running all your latest test versions on our Nexus 6 phones, which are still on stock 5.1.1 and have had no issues.  These phones should get OTA updates to Marshmallow 6.0 any day now.

But I've also been running your new releases on my test mule, a Nexus 4 running an AOSP Marshmallow 6.0 ROM.  Also has TWRP recovery, Gapps, AFwall+ firewall, SuperSU and all my favorite stuff installed.  So it's setup just like for daily use.  The Nexus 4 runs this very well.

These phones all have 4 Gmail accounts and 1 IMAP account, provided by GoDaddy, setup in AquaMail. 

Anyway, the point of all this is I have the test equipment needed for AquaMail/6.0.  I've not noticed any issues with AquaMail on the Nexus 4 and 6.0.  But, I don't much care if it goes into Doze mode and doesn't get mail at 2am.

Still, you seem concerned about AquaMail on 6.0.  What should I do or look for?  I'm not really certain exactly what issues you're worried about.

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Android since v1.0.  Linux since 2001.

mikeone

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Re: Best laid plans for after 1.6.0
« Reply #23 on: November 28, 2015, 12:05:24 pm »
Aqua Mail is great. The only think I would like is the option for an email to show more than one label/folder as can be done with Gmail. Or is that already possible and I haven't found that option yet?
The requested feature could be an action:

"Copy to folder..."
(in addition to "Move to folder...").
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Davey126

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Re: Best laid plans for after 1.6.0
« Reply #24 on: November 28, 2015, 04:07:00 pm »
Aqua Mail is great. The only think I would like is the option for an email to show more than one label/folder as can be done with Gmail. Or is that already possible and I haven't found that option yet?
The requested feature could be an action:

"Copy to folder..."
(in addition to "Move to folder...").
Interesting. I have wished for both of these features (second is necessary extension of first) from time to time but could easily accomplish in another client (eg: EM Client or native gmail) when needed. It would be convenient to have in Aquamail but I worry about the extra complexity.

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Re: Best laid plans for after 1.6.0
« Reply #25 on: November 28, 2015, 04:49:08 pm »
Well, the action "Move to folder..." is already implemented in AquaMail.
(and also: "Move to Archive" + "Move to Spam")

Davey126

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Re: Best laid plans for after 1.6.0
« Reply #26 on: November 28, 2015, 05:00:37 pm »
Well, the action "Move to folder..." is already implemented in AquaMail.
(and also: "Move to Archive" + "Move to Spam")
FYI - Move is different from copy in most contexts. Moving a message in AM can actually break Gmails default multi-tagging if one of the system folders is involved. But this is a minor issue in the grand scheme of email management. A nice refinement but not critical.

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Re: Best laid plans for after 1.6.0
« Reply #27 on: November 28, 2015, 05:30:54 pm »
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FYI - Move is different from copy in most contexts.

Of course, I know that there is a difference.  8)

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Moving a message in AM can actually break Gmails default multi-tagging if one of the system folders is involved. But this is a minor issue in the grand scheme of email management. A nice refinement but not critical.
I'm not sure what you want to point out here.

GMail's IMAP server "shows" each label as a separate folder.

I never had any issues with the "Move to folder..." action in my AquaMail's Gmail account (configured as IMAP) in the past.

@Davey126
Maybe it's worth to have a look into this thread from Paris Geek and post your feedback/concerns right there:

http://www.aqua-mail.com/forum/index.php?topic=2783.msg12410#msg12410

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Re: Best laid plans for after 1.6.0
« Reply #28 on: November 28, 2015, 05:32:28 pm »
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FYI - Move is different from copy in most contexts.

Of course, I know that there is a difference.  8)
Sorry about that. I offer support in various contexts and still run across folks who don't fully understand the difference. No disrespect intended 8)

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Moving a message in AM can actually break Gmails default multi-tagging if one of the system folders is involved. But this is a minor issue in the grand scheme of email management. A nice refinement but not critical.
I'm not sure what you want to point out here.
I never had any issues in AquaMail with the "Move to folder..." action in my Gmail account in the past.
A couple examples:
  - if an incoming message is pre-labeled via Gmail filter it will loose those label(s) when the move function is used in AquaMail
  - moving a message from a 'system' Gmail folder (eg: sent) does just that - potentially making it more difficult to find at a later time
It is important to note AquaMail is performing the move function properly; no issues there! Copy would add new dimension (and associated complexity) that might provide better support for multi-tagging in Gmail.

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Re: Best laid plans for after 1.6.0
« Reply #29 on: November 28, 2015, 05:34:44 pm »
@Davey126
Maybe it's worth to have a look into this thread from Paris Geek and post your feedback/concerns right there:

http://www.aqua-mail.com/forum/index.php?topic=2783.msg12410#msg12410
Thank you - I will take a look.