Author Topic: 1.6.0-14-dev1.7 - conversation view / группировка сообщений  (Read 14823 times)

Kostya Vasilyev

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+ Добавил настройки внешнего вида сгруппированных сообщений.

+ Испровления ашибак.

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+ Added settings -> conversations -> appearance customization.

+ Bug fixiz.
« Last Edit: November 12, 2015, 11:59:52 pm by Kostya Vasilyev, Aqua Mail »
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Kostya,
Very good decision to move the options for Conversation in a own Settings section.

Unfortunately I realized that the description of the "position counters" iin a message of a conversation is mixed up again with build 1.6.0-14-dev1.7/1.7.1
> see screenshot #2
« Last Edit: November 12, 2015, 08:04:37 am by mikeone »

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Yes, I changed it.

I keep trying to find better wording, if you have suggestions, please share.
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Yes, I changed it.

I keep trying to find better wording, if you have suggestions, please share.
Regarding the screenshots in my previous post the "Position counter" in a conservation (screenshot #2) is currently wrong (reversed):

MESSAGE 1/3 IN CONVERSATION 22/37

My suggestion (for #2) is as follows:

MESSAGE 21/37
MESSAGE 22/37 IN CONVERSATION 1/3
MESSAGE 23/37

The wording itself is perfect.


« Last Edit: November 12, 2015, 08:04:01 am by mikeone »

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Hi Kostya, I like conversation mode, very useful and ergonomic to enter in detailed list.
In my short experience, I have 4 email in sequence but I find 2 groups, not one with counter 4.

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It defeats the purpose: you don't know where you are within the conversation.  There was a thread in these forums that inspired this.

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http://www.aqua-mail.com/download/AquaMail-market-1.6.0-14-dev1.7.apk

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+ Добавил настройки внешнего вида сгруппированных сообщений.

+ Испровления ашибак.

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+ Added settings -> conversations -> appearance customization.

+ Bug fixiz.


Conversations now considers subject: new subject means new conversation.

Why?
This is not good.
Some Mail-Clients put a "RE" or "AW" or "Antwort" or whatever in front of the subject.
Now we always have a new conversation where why don't want to have one.
I'v attached a screenshot how it looks in mutt (the mother of all E-Mail clients!),
1 thread with 7 messages.
And a screenshot with AM, 1 message and 3 threads with 2 messages each.

« Last Edit: November 12, 2015, 07:19:27 pm by druckmusik »

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This broke in dev1.6 and is still broken:

It seems that when you accept an email calendar invite on EWS exchange account, that invite does not move to the deleted folder as it once did. I think conversation view broke that.

Is there any way to fix it?

Thanks

mikeone

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It defeats the purpose: you don't know where you are within the conversation.  There was a thread in these forums that inspired this.

So we can keep option 2, where the user knows exactly where he/she is within the convesation, or replace it by option 4 or 5, where:

- the user knows exactly where he/she is within the conversation
- outside a conversation (single message), the user knows exactly where he/she is within the global message list (by swiping, all those messages can be reached).

See my new slide
Hi Paris Geek,

I prefer #1 (as it was in dev1.4) or #4 (your new suggestion).

#2 (since dev1.6) is confusing me, since the position counter (e.g. "Message .. /37") changes everytime his own position when you swipe into /out of a conversation:

MESSAGE 20/37
MESSAGE 21/37
MESSAGE 1/3 IN CONVERSATION 22/37
MESSAGE 2/3 IN CONVERSATION 22/37
MESSAGE 3/3 IN CONVERSATION 22/37
MESSAGE 23/37
MESSAGE 24/37

#5 will also confusing me, since the counter of total messages changes in the same manner (.. /3 >.. /14)

#3 looks like #4, but the user couldn't see the total number of messages within the current conversation.

« Last Edit: November 12, 2015, 10:15:12 pm by mikeone »

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Conversations now considers subject: new subject means new conversation.

Why?
This is not good.
Some Mail-Clients put a "RE" or "AW" or "Antwort" or whatever in front of the subject.
Now we always have a new conversation where why don't want to have one.
I'v attached a screenshot how it lokls in mutt (the mother of all E-Mail clients!),
one thread wit 7 messages.
And a screenshot with AM, 1 message and 3 threads with 2 messages each.
@druckmusik:
Thanks for this great example.

That's another reason to leave the choice by the user:
(A) conversation by referenced messages (dev1.4)
or
(B) "breaking" conversation by subject (since )

@Kostya:
I would very much appreciate if you will think about such an option in Conversation settings  8)dev1.6
« Last Edit: November 12, 2015, 08:36:47 pm by mikeone »

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Actually it is
(A) conversation by referenced messages (dev1.4)
or
(B) "breaking" conversation by subject (since dev1.6)

I agree with you Mikeone, I've said since the beginning that a user choice here is needed. I thought that (B) could be by default, but after seeing the issues posted by @Fcalosi, @druckmusik, @str, etc. I would prefer (A) (dev 1.4) as the default. Only one user has reported an issue for dev1.4, compared to many issues reported by others for dev1.6 method.

Thanks for your reply Paris Geek.
Full compliance  8)
« Last Edit: November 12, 2015, 08:55:39 pm by mikeone »

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Re: Some Mail-Clients put a "RE" or "AW" or "Antwort" or whatever in front of the subject.

"Re:", "Aw:", "Fwd:", "Отв:", and also "Re[2]:", "Fwd[10]:" and their combinations are removed / ignored when comparing subjects.

"Antwort:" is just crazy :)

Re: attached a screenshot how it lokls in mutt

Umm... Yep, different subjects.

Re: It seems that when you accept an email calendar invite on EWS exchange account

Will take a look, thanks.
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"Re:", "Aw:", "Fwd:", "Отв:", and also "Re[2]:", "Fwd[10]:" and their combinations are removed / ignored when comparing subjects.

"Antwort:" is just crazy :)

Antwort is "Re", correct?

Is there a similar "long version" for "Fwd"?

Please don't tell me there is, and it's something like "Weitergeleiteten: original subject" :)


PS - I added "Antwort" as a special case in subject cleanup code, if you clarify on "Fwd", I'll add that too.
« Last Edit: November 13, 2015, 12:13:21 am by Kostya Vasilyev, Aqua Mail »
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"Re:", "Aw:", "Fwd:", "Отв:", and also "Re[2]:", "Fwd[10]:" and their combinations are removed / ignored when comparing subjects.

"Antwort:" is just crazy :)

Antwort is "Re", correct?

Is there a similar "long version" for "Fwd"?

Please don't tell me there is, and it's something like "Weitergeleiteten: original subject" :)


PS - I added "Antwort" as a special case in subject cleanup code, if you clarify on "Fwd", I'll add that too.
"Antwort" should be sufficient..
"Weitergeleitet" isn't usual.
Thanks Kostya
« Last Edit: November 13, 2015, 12:25:39 am by mikeone »

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"Weitergeleitet" isn't usual.

I can exhale now :)
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