1.6.0-14-dev1.4 - Conversation View / Группировка сообщений

[Kostya Vasilyev]

http://www.aqua-mail.com/download/AquaMail-market-1.6.0-14-dev1.4.apk

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+ Please reindex conversations, settings -> message list -> conversation view, turn off and back on.

( this version will do a full rebuild, it is necessary )

+ Added "message position within the list" in message view. Settings -> message view to turn off.

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+ Необходимо пересчитать группировку, настройки - список сообщений, выключить группировку и включить обратно.

( эта версия выполнит полный пересчет данных, это необходимо )

+ Добавил отображение позиции письма в списке, при просмотре. Чтобы выключить, настройки - отображение сообщений.

[bschelst]

Hi,

A remark. The 'load messages'  isnt anymore what i expected.
But it depends how you look at it of course.
I configured 'load 15 messages'.  But with the conversation view,  it is for example possible that you now will have 1 mail in your inbox,  1 conversation with 15 mails in  there.
Personally I would have expected to have 15 mails in my inbox,  but not taking into account the number of mails in a conversation. (or use another value for that).

But maybe i am the only one with that expectation

[StR]

Just to make sure I understood you correctly: Did you expect a conversation and 14 (or 15) message in addition to that conversation?

I didn't test it that way, - but I'd expect that "load 15 messages" would load up to 15 new messages (or fewer if there aren't that many new messages) during each sync from the Inbox.

How they are displayed can vary:
They might all be separate, or all in one or more conversation threads, or in a combination of those. And if the older, previously downloaded messages belong to those threads, they will be shown together in those threads.

But why should it matter how they are displayed,- if you wanted 15 messages loaded, you've got them. What if a conversation had 1000 messages? Do you really want to download 1015 messages to have 1 conversation with 1000 messages plus 15 messages separately?

But maybe I didn't understand what you meant.

[bschelst]

Hi,

Now he is showing 15 messages in total.
For example,  if you now get 1 new mail,  and that conversation contains 15 messages (with 14 old mails),  your inbox would only show 1 conversation.
So if you have a conversation with a lot of messages, you will be f**f,  because you won't see other mails in your inbox anymore,  if you have bad luck of course .
Its true that the 'amount of messages loaded'  is correct,  but if you use conversations in your inbox this could be a disadvantage.

[StR]

First of all, about configurations: there is a difference on how many messages to load during each sync ("Messages to sync") and how many messages to keep ("Messages to cache").
You are talking about the former, but you seem to mean the latter. Otherwise, if you had 14 messages in the thread, with the next sync you'd get [up to] 15 more new messages.

Second, - if all your messages are in a single big conversation: what's the problem?
Is your main goal just to fill-up the screen exactly? I am confused...

[pyler]

Load up to X conversations setting could solve this.

[StR]

Bad idea.
1. You may end up with an unbound number of messages (in principle) .
2. At the time of sync, app doesn't know yet how the messwoild group in threads. And it cannot ask the server for N threads.
Loading messages one by one would be a waste of resources.

[StR]

This discussion reminded me of a kids story I read long time ago.
There was a mathematical cake shop where all cakes were cut in exactly 100 pieces. So, the customers were expected to ask for so many percents. One kid was crying: "I asked for 40%, but they give me 2 pieces...Aaa..." And the adults were explaining to him that the cake was cut into 5 pieces, thus each piece was 20%; and he's got 2 of them. "No!... I want my 40%... I said `Please'... and I was going to say `thank you!'... Aaa!.."

[bschelst]

'Second, - if all your messages are in a single big conversation: what's the problem?'

WRONG.  Didn't you read my text?
I does NOT take into account 'new'  or 'old'  email 
So if you have a conversation with 100 mails,  and you get *1* new mail,   this conversation will be the only conversation in your inbox.

[StR]

'Second, - if all your messages are in a single big conversation: what's the problem?'

WRONG.  Didn't you read my text?
I does NOT take into account 'new'  or 'old'  email 

Did you mean "It" (instead of "I")?  What "It" that "does not take into account 'new' or 'old' email?"

So if you have a conversation with 100 mails,  and you get *1* new mail,   this conversation will be the only conversation in your inbox.

What's wrong with that?

[mikeone]

'Second, - if all your messages are in a single big conversation: what's the problem?'

WRONG.  Didn't you read my text?
I does NOT take into account 'new'  or 'old'  email 
So if you have a conversation with 100 mails,  and you get *1* new mail,   this conversation will be the only conversation in your inbox.

Hi bschelst,
How many and which messages will you see if you disable "Conversation view" in Settings > Message list...?

[Kostya Vasilyev]

@bschelst

If you ask the app to sync 25 messages, and 20 of those form a single conversation and 5 are "single", then you will see:

One list item representing those 20 messages in a single conversation
And five more list items each representing a single message

Working as intended, nothing to fix.

If that's somehow annoying / irritating to you, perhaps the real issue is you don't like messages being grouped into conversations?

Nothing wrong with that, I'm not a big fan either (although sometimes it's handy, but only sometimes), and you can just turn it off.

[mikeone]

.. and you can just turn it off.

Yes,... and that's the reason why individual options are available in Settings.
 

[paras.desai]

Can some one inform what the message count in below image indicate,  (Red circled)

Sent from my HTC One_E8 dual sim using Tapatalk

[mikeone]

Hi paras.desai,
This is a (new implemented) message counter. Thereby the user can recognize at which position (in the message list) he is.

In addition to that it appears a separate counter if you are in a message of a conversation - to see "where you are" within the conversation.