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pyler

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Re: How to completely move the app and the messages to new Phone
« Reply #30 on: July 09, 2015, 10:26:29 pm »
Afaik that's not possible to implement as Pro only feature since Pro is not done as separated APK, but normal free app is unlocked by unlocker. And the app can't switch that flag by some API or so.
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Re: How to completely move the app and the messages to new Phone
« Reply #31 on: July 09, 2015, 11:39:07 pm »
Afaik that's not possible to implement as Pro only feature since Pro is not done as separated APK, but normal free app is unlocked by unlocker. And the app can't switch that flag by some API or so.

Why do you say that? Pro unlocks the use of identities, for example. Why not this feature?
I also think that this could be possible.

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Re: How to completely move the app and the messages to new Phone
« Reply #32 on: July 10, 2015, 10:03:38 pm »
"Backup enabled or not" is a build-time setting, it's an entry in an XML file inside the .apk. Not a runtime function.
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Re: How to completely move the app and the messages to new Phone
« Reply #33 on: July 10, 2015, 10:16:42 pm »
"Backup enabled or not" is a build-time setting, it's an entry in an XML file inside the .apk. Not a runtime function.

And that means what...(regarding to define as a Pro feature or even not) ?
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Re: How to completely move the app and the messages to new Phone
« Reply #34 on: July 10, 2015, 10:24:08 pm »
It's not something I can enable or disable at run time, from the app's code (depending on some logic).

It's something *fixed* in the app's installation file.
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Re: How to completely move the app and the messages to new Phone
« Reply #35 on: July 17, 2015, 01:16:01 pm »
Anyway, I would make it enabled by default. I see no potentional issues.
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Re: How to completely move the app and the messages to new Phone
« Reply #36 on: July 17, 2015, 04:54:24 pm »
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Re: How to completely move the app and the messages to new Phone
« Reply #37 on: July 17, 2015, 08:59:13 pm »
I explained above why I will not be enabling it by default.

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Re: How to completely move the app and the messages to new Phone
« Reply #38 on: July 17, 2015, 10:45:17 pm »
No, that's not right. You explained NOT, why you will not enable it, but you said, you need some time for "testing" ;)


Well, for now, I'm keeping it separate -- would like to give it more time in case it causes "anything bad" (tm) to happen.

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Re: How to completely move the app and the messages to new Phone
« Reply #39 on: July 17, 2015, 11:54:51 pm »
I'm still not sure about the possible consequences regarding this:

http://www.aqua-mail.com/forum/index.php?topic=3604.msg18169#msg18169

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Re: How to completely move the app and the messages to new Phone
« Reply #40 on: July 18, 2015, 12:56:03 am »
Aquamail will NOT "transmit or store" something!!
It only provides the ABILITY the user to do so!! (which can even in future ONLY be performed   by the user himself)

So this can never be a violation of the terms of use.

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Re: How to completely move the app and the messages to new Phone
« Reply #41 on: July 18, 2015, 09:29:05 am »
This^.

I ckecked K9Mail's AndroidManifest file and app even doesn't declare this flag so it means that defualt value (True) is used.
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Re: How to completely move the app and the messages to new Phone
« Reply #42 on: July 19, 2015, 09:18:39 pm »
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Aquamail will NOT "transmit or store" something!!
It only provides the ABILITY the user to do so!! (which can even in future ONLY be performed   by the user himself)

So this can never be a violation of the terms of use.

Was that qualified legal counsel?

Are you a licensed practicing lawyer?

Would you represent me in communications with Google Play support, should the need arise?

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I ckecked K9Mail's AndroidManifest file and app even doesn't declare this flag so it means that defualt value (True) is used.

Good for them.

Now, is it true that soooo many people don't have their old messages on the mail servers? So they can't just be re-synced?

Or are we having this discussion "in search of the greater truths", meaning "just for the hell of it"?

PS - I may be too cautious here, but, you know, "better safe than sorry".
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Re: How to completely move the app and the messages to new Phone
« Reply #43 on: July 19, 2015, 11:18:01 pm »
"However, it's a specific issue which is related  only for POP3' accounts when the messages are downloaded to the device and deleted on the server."

POP3 does not necessarily mean "downloaded and deleted from the server".

And it's very common these days, more and more so, to just leave everything on the server. Especially if you're using more than one device / mail app (desktop or mobile).
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Re: How to completely move the app and the messages to new Phone
« Reply #44 on: July 20, 2015, 01:21:44 pm »
Well, we should understand Kostya's fear. Google could remove his app(s) from Store if their bot machine (not humans) finds it breaks their rules.

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