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Title: Version 1.25.1-1658 - Beta version on Google Play
Post by: Nadejda Fudulska, MobiSystems, AquaMail support on July 02, 2020, 04:01:25 pm
https://www.aqua-mail.com/download/AquaMail-market-1.25.1-1658-beta-a5232d36a.apk

Hi all,

We added a separate setting and you can now disable crash reporting. The version is a available on Play Store as beta.
Excuse us for the delayed reply.

To enroll to our Beta Group, please follow the link below
https://play.google.com/apps/testing/org.kman.AquaMail

Nadia
Title: Re: Version 1.25.1-1658 - Beta version on Google Play
Post by: Justin on July 02, 2020, 05:31:03 pm
Hi, I tried this beta version. I disabled crash reports.

But connections are still there, different than before:

firebase-settings.crashlytics.com
firebaseinstallations.googleapis.com

Title: Re: Version 1.25.1-1658 - Beta version on Google Play
Post by: Mukossan on July 03, 2020, 01:39:29 pm
Same here...
Title: Re: Version 1.25.1-1658 - Beta version on Google Play
Post by: Justin on July 08, 2020, 09:51:24 am
@Nadejda Fudulska, MobiSystems, AquaMail support

You offered a beta version 6 days ago.

Usually developers expect feedback. I tested and gave a factual feedback.

Unfortunately I can't see if they are working on it or if my feedback was noticed at all.

Usually the communication is different than here with Mobisystems. Slowly I understand more and more the websites and people on Reddit and elsewhere who write against AquaMail.

Why a beta version if there is no communication about it?
Title: Re: Version 1.25.1-1658 - Beta version on Google Play
Post by: Mukossan on July 09, 2020, 05:15:44 pm
@Nadejda Fudulska, MobiSystems, AquaMail support

You offered a beta version 6 days ago.

Usually developers expect feedback. I tested and gave a factual feedback.

Unfortunately I can't see if they are working on it or if my feedback was noticed at all.

Usually the communication is different than here with Mobisystems. Slowly I understand more and more the websites and people on Reddit and elsewhere who write against AquaMail.

Why a beta version if there is no communication about it?
What can I say.

This is terrible customer service and interaction.
Title: Re: Version 1.25.1-1658 - Beta version on Google Play
Post by: Nadejda Fudulska, MobiSystems, AquaMail support on July 09, 2020, 05:41:00 pm
Hi,

Here is the latest version of Aqua Mail where hopefully the problem should be fixed. You can download it from here

https://www.aqua-mail.com/download/AquaMail-market-1.25.2-1661-beta-4596a7a7f.apk

Thank you for your patience,

Nadia
Title: Re: Version 1.25.1-1658 - Beta version on Google Play
Post by: Justin on July 09, 2020, 06:03:07 pm
Hi, thanks.

Unfortunately it's not fixed, see screenshot. Several unwanted connections.

Did you test this version by yourself? I got the result after few minutes.
Title: Re: Version 1.25.1-1658 - Beta version on Google Play
Post by: Justin on July 09, 2020, 11:21:34 pm
Just noticed the other one again, so we have still those connections, which I mentioned above:

firebase-settings.crashlytics.com
firebaseinstallations.googleapis.com

Could you please fix it? Or remove it completely?

I suppose: If Aquamail crashes you will get logcats manually sent by users.

Title: Re: Version 1.25.1-1658 - Beta version on Google Play
Post by: Anton Donchev on July 13, 2020, 12:34:08 pm
Hi Justin,

We are still fighting to resolve this issue and stop any unnecessary requests.
Firebase Crashlytics is Google service and we have contacted them about this matter, currently we are in the waiting for their response.

I have inspected the requests and I can see no tracking data in it. It's just data about the app like package name, version etc.
Seems like these requests are only executed on upgrade of the app, at least this is how we could reproduce it.

We are still working on that, so please hang on with us a little longer.

Thanks,
Anton.
Title: Re: Version 1.25.1-1658 - Beta version on Google Play
Post by: Justin on July 14, 2020, 11:44:26 pm
@Anton
Thank you for the information on the interim status.
Title: Re: Version 1.25.1-1658 - Beta version on Google Play
Post by: ksuuk on July 15, 2020, 11:16:15 am

I have inspected the requests and I can see no tracking data in it. It's just data about the app like package name, version etc.
Seems like these requests are only executed on upgrade of the app, at least this is how we could reproduce it.


False, every time, when app is starting/started, it connects to firebase-settings.crashlytics.com
Title: Re: Version 1.25.1-1658 - Beta version on Google Play
Post by: Justin on July 15, 2020, 05:52:16 pm
I can confirm what @ksuuk said.

To reproduce quickly: Just force stop Aquamail (via App-Info), then start again.
Title: Re: Version 1.25.1-1658 - Beta version on Google Play
Post by: ksuuk on July 16, 2020, 08:01:42 pm
I can confirm what @ksuuk said.

To reproduce quickly: Just force stop Aquamail (via App-Info), then start again.

Just installed 1.25.2-1666 and like before, AdGuard detects trackers:

firebase-settings.crashlytics.com
firebaseinstallations.googleapis.com
Title: Re: Version 1.25.1-1658 - Beta version on Google Play
Post by: chris122380 on July 16, 2020, 11:40:44 pm
I can confirm what @ksuuk said.

To reproduce quickly: Just force stop Aquamail (via App-Info), then start again.

Just installed 1.25.2-1666 and like before, AdGuard detects trackers:

firebase-settings.crashlytics.com
firebaseinstallations.googleapis.com

I'm still not sure how you got adguard to show you that per app. However those two hosts names are for reporting when an app crashes. One is for the Google API to report the crash and the other is the actual reporting side.

Since it is a Google API and the developer has said they have reached out to Google for assistance please be patient.

I have reported a few bugs in the past with no response but yet they have fixed it. So there is no reason to continue to hound the developer until they have released an update where they have claimed to have fixed it again.  Or just use adgaurd to block those two hosts.
Title: Re: Version 1.25.1-1658 - Beta version on Google Play
Post by: Anton Donchev on July 20, 2020, 06:04:46 pm
Hi,

I'm not able to reproduce it on every start of the app.
I can only see a request after I erase app memory and start it for the first time.

Maybe if you blocked that request with AdGuard it is trying on next start as well.

We are still waiting on explanation from Google...

Thanks,
Anton.
Title: Re: Version 1.25.1-1658 - Beta version on Google Play
Post by: chris122380 on July 20, 2020, 08:22:49 pm
Hi,

I'm not able to reproduce it on every start of the app.
I can only see a request after I erase app memory and start it for the first time.

Maybe if you blocked that request with AdGuard it is trying on next start as well.

We are still waiting on explanation from Google...

Thanks,
Anton.

What about the GIF bug? Unable to post GIF images from SwiftKey or Gboard into composer.
Title: Re: Version 1.25.1-1658 - Beta version on Google Play
Post by: merl on July 27, 2020, 01:13:47 am
Chris, you are asking questions that you don’t get an intelligible answer to. In fact, aquamail is dead. He lives at the present time by what Kostya has done and they have not done anything new and will never do.
It's funny to talk about some new functionality if the developers announce in the what's new section that they have removed one ad network and added another. What else can you expect from this approach. It's a pity, it was the best email client for android. Mobisystems can be congratulated on destroying a great program. They got their way.
Title: Re: Version 1.25.1-1658 - Beta version on Google Play
Post by: chris122380 on July 27, 2020, 02:18:05 am
Chris, you are asking questions that you don’t get an intelligible answer to. In fact, aquamail is dead. He lives at the present time by what Kostya has done and they have not done anything new and will never do.
It's funny to talk about some new functionality if the developers announce in the what's new section that they have removed one ad network and added another. What else can you expect from this approach. It's a pity, it was the best email client for android. Mobisystems can be congratulated on destroying a great program. They got their way.

As I have said before the Google API is not a add Tracker. It is a crash tracker even Mobisystems has told you that. The api has been misbehaving and that's why they where reaching out to Google. If you would research the host request you would realize that. Plus the Mobisystems rep also said that you could block the host and it wouldn't effect its usage. If your using a host blocking software on your phone or network what do you care.

Aquamail has received more updates then most email programs including your precious fairemail (which has a clunky outdated interface and small font). There was even a plan to add to PGP or s/mime support (based on a previous survey). Aquamail isn't dead you're just impatient for what takes time to program.
Title: Re: Version 1.25.1-1658 - Beta version on Google Play
Post by: Justin on August 13, 2020, 07:00:45 pm
We are still fighting to resolve this issue and stop any unnecessary requests.
Firebase Crashlytics is Google service and we have contacted them about this matter, currently we are in the waiting for their response.

I have inspected the requests and I can see no tracking data in it. It's just data about the app like package name, version etc.
Seems like these requests are only executed on upgrade of the app, at least this is how we could reproduce it.
Any news on this?
(I'm actually not using your beta versions)

Those unwanted connections happen daily several times.