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Title: Version 1.18.0-1343-dev - "work in progress" - not in Google Play
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on November 02, 2018, 07:45:17 pm
https://www.aqua-mail.com/download/AquaMail-market-1.18.0-1336-dev-2a6d713b2be7.apk
https://www.aqua-mail.com/download/AquaMail-market-1.18.0-1337-dev-544356c58c3c.apk
https://www.aqua-mail.com/download/AquaMail-market-1.18.0-1342-dev-aafde32dc471.apk

https://www.aqua-mail.com/download/AquaMail-market-1.18.0-1343-dev-90c6c1b2f694.apk
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+ Updated design: message header (in message view).

Topic for feedback:

https://www.aqua-mail.com/forum/index.php?topic=6914.0

+ Android 8.0+: notification settings (sound, vibration) are now in phone Settings (a Google requirement).

Actually it's more than that - this version has "target = 8.0" as required by Google.

The appearance of notifications (sound, vibration, etc.) can now be changed *only* by user.

An app can pre-fill some defaults, but that's it, it can't change how a notification appears, only the user can.

Explanation from Google:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGIw4MIJn5o

In particular, apps cannot change LED color. Only user can in phone settings.

Problem is, Google did not provide that LED color setting.

https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/112105327

Closed as "won't fix / infeasible".

Same goes for vibration *patterns* (two short, three long, etc.)

Some phones don't even have a toggle switch for LED on / off.

+ Build 1337 - small internal changes / bug fixes in message list.

+ Build 1342 - updated AR, FR

+ Build 1343 - fixed "stuck" notification after sending on 8.0+

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+ Обновлённый дизайн: заголовок на экране отображения сообщений.

Тема для обсуждения:

https://www.aqua-mail.com/forum/index.php?topic=6914.0

+ Андроид 8.0+: настройки уведомлений (звук, вибрация) теперь в Настройках телефона (требование Google).

Вообще-то изменения более глубокие - в программе теперь "target = 8.0" по требованию Google.

Настройки уведомлений (звук, вибрация) теперь может менять *только* пользователь.

Приложение может задать значения по умолчанию, и на этом всё, менять их уже не сможет, только пользователь.

Объяснение от Google:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGIw4MIJn5o

В частности, приложения не могут менять цвет LED. Только пользователь может это сделать в настройках телефона.

Проблема - Google не сделал настройку цвета LED в настройках телефона.

https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/112105327

Закрыто как "Не будем исправлять / нет смысла".

То же самое относится к *типу* вибросигнала (три коротких, два длинных, и так далее).

На некоторых телефонах вообще нету "галочки" включения / выключения LED.

+ Сборка 1337 - небольшие внутренние изменения / исправления в списке сообщений.

+ Сборка 1342 - переводы AR, FR

+ Сборка 1343 - исправили ошибку с "залипающим" уведомлением после отправки на 8.0+
Title: Re: Version 1.18.0-1336-dev - "work in progress" - not in Google Play
Post by: Finferlo on November 02, 2018, 09:36:43 pm
Please, how to set notification tone in Honor / Huawei?
Title: Re: Version 1.18.0-1336-dev - "work in progress" - not in Google Play
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on November 02, 2018, 10:09:02 pm
RE: Please, how to set notification tone in Honor / Huawei?

For Android 8.0 or newer:

Phone Settings -> Apps and Notifications -> tap into Aqua Mail -> Notifications -> Message notificaitons

OR

Aqua Mail Settings -> Message Notifications -> Manage Notifications ---- will "take you into" same screen in Phone Settings

Title: Re: Version 1.18.0-1336-dev - "work in progress" - not in Google Play
Post by: Finferlo on November 02, 2018, 10:21:31 pm
Here it is not like that. I have Android 8!
Title: Re: Version 1.18.0-1336-dev - "work in progress" - not in Google Play
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on November 02, 2018, 10:22:31 pm
"Suoneria" - "sound"?
Title: Re: Version 1.18.0-1336-dev - "work in progress" - not in Google Play
Post by: Finferlo on November 02, 2018, 10:32:29 pm
Yes, notification tone. I want to select my prefer.
Title: Re: Version 1.18.0-1336-dev - "work in progress" - not in Google Play
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on November 02, 2018, 10:45:27 pm
Re: Yes, notification tone. I want to select my prefer.

This screen you're looking at -

- is part of your Phone Settings.

It was put there by Huawei, not us.

Maybe Huawei does not want you to select different sounds? Or maybe there is some way to do it that I cannot see?

I don't happen to own any Huawei phones... Sorry...
Title: Re: Version 1.18.0-1336-dev - "work in progress" - not in Google Play
Post by: Finferlo on November 02, 2018, 10:47:54 pm
Is the same with Twitter app...

Thanks.
Title: Re: Version 1.18.0-1336-dev - "work in progress" - not in Google Play
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on November 02, 2018, 10:49:33 pm
Re: Is the same with Twitter app...

Then it's this:

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Maybe Huawei does not want you to select different sounds? Or maybe there is some way to do it that I cannot see?
Title: Re: Version 1.18.0-1336-dev - "work in progress" - not in Google Play
Post by: Finferlo on November 02, 2018, 11:16:32 pm
Loook here:

screen 1,2,3 are the acquamail sequenze

screen 4 instead Whatsapp that as you seen is different from screen 3
of Aquamail where you can not choose the ringtone and instead in whatsapp

excuse my elementary english !

Title: Re: Version 1.18.0-1336-dev - "work in progress" - not in Google Play
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on November 02, 2018, 11:20:45 pm
Google is forcing all app developers to update their apps to be "optimized for Android 8.0".

As part of that, Notification settings are now in Phone Settings.

There is no other way.

What you posted means that:

- Twitter has been updated to 8.0 - you get same exact screen in Phone Settings as from Aqua Mail

- WhatApp has *not* been updated for 8.0 *yet* - and so it has *its own* Notification Settings.

But *all* apps have to be updated to 8.0. Google is forcing *all* app developers to do this.

So even with WhatApp it's only a matter of time.
Title: Re: Version 1.18.0-1336-dev - "work in progress" - not in Google Play
Post by: Finferlo on November 02, 2018, 11:27:15 pm
Thank you thank you !
you're always very kind. In fact it is so, even with Twitter the problem remains.
In fact, the tone that is played is the default one of the phone and can not be customized.

Thank you !
Title: Re: Version 1.18.0-1336-dev - "work in progress" - not in Google Play
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on November 02, 2018, 11:29:35 pm
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you're always very kind. In fact it is so, even with Twitter the problem remains.
In fact, the tone that is played is the default one of the phone and can not be customized.

Maybe - maybe - as more apps are updated to "optimized for Android 8.0"  - phone makers such as Huawei, Samsung, etc. can make their Phone Notification Settings better.

Maybe. Add sound control (Huawei, already there on other phones), maybe add LED color control (all phones).

Maybe.
Title: Re: Version 1.18.0-1336-dev - "work in progress" - not in Google Play
Post by: phred on November 03, 2018, 05:29:07 am
For Android 8.0 or newer:
Phone Settings -> Apps and Notifications -> tap into Aqua Mail -> Notifications -> Message notificaitons
OR
Aqua Mail Settings -> Message Notifications -> Manage Notifications ---- will "take you into" same screen in Phone Settings
Does this mean that once the new version of AM is installed all my notifications (sound and vibration) will be gone? Or if I'm using Android "stock" sounds, I can continue to use them? Will I be able to use the AM vibration paterns?
Title: Re: Version 1.18.0-1337-dev - "work in progress" - not in Google Play
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on November 03, 2018, 05:35:00 am
Not at all your notifications will not be gone.

Only change is - details of how they appear (sound, vibration) are now set in phone settings not in app settings.

This is only for Android 8.0+ no change for earlier versions.
Title: Re: Version 1.18.0-1337-dev - "work in progress" - not in Google Play
Post by: phred on November 03, 2018, 05:45:00 am
Only change is - details of how they appear (sound, vibration) are now set in phone settings not in app settings.
Ahhh ... understood.

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This is only for Android 8.0+ no change for earlier versions.
Yes, I'm running 8.0, which is why I was concerned.

Thanks for the clarification.
Title: Re: Version 1.18.0-1337-dev - "work in progress" - not in Google Play
Post by: Finferlo on November 03, 2018, 09:52:06 am
This type of notifications do not disappear when the current operation is terminated. It remains frozen as in the screen

* Huawei / Honor Oreo
Title: Re: Version 1.18.0-1337-dev - "work in progress" - not in Google Play
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on November 03, 2018, 11:51:04 am
Re: This type of notifications do not disappear when the current operation is terminated. It remains frozen as in the screen

Hmmmm.... I cannot reproduce on any of my phones (Samsung, Xiaomi).

I'll file a bug.

What is your exact phone model?
Title: Re: Version 1.18.0-1337-dev - "work in progress" - not in Google Play
Post by: Finferlo on November 03, 2018, 05:48:06 pm
Re: This type of notifications do not disappear when the current operation is terminated. It remains frozen as in the screen

Hmmmm.... I cannot reproduce on any of my phones (Samsung, Xiaomi).

I'll file a bug.

What is your exact phone model?

Honor 7x Android 8.0

Title: Re: Version 1.18.0-1337-dev - "work in progress" - not in Google Play
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on November 03, 2018, 05:49:59 pm
Re: Honor 7x Android 8.0

OK thanks
Title: Re: Version 1.18.0-1337-dev - "work in progress" - not in Google Play
Post by: Finferlo on November 03, 2018, 06:01:18 pm
Kostya, look at the screen, if the setting is on as you see it in the screen the problem occurs. If I put it off it disappears but the notification does not appear as it appeared in the previous version.
Title: Re: Version 1.18.0-1337-dev - "work in progress" - not in Google Play
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on November 03, 2018, 06:22:07 pm
Re: If I put it off it disappears but the notification does not appear as it appeared in the previous version.

Right if you turn this off - the notification does not appear at all. So it cannot possible "stay behind" if it's not there.

Our QA will be back on Monday and they will try to reproduce.....
Title: Re: Version 1.18.0-1337-dev - "work in progress" - not in Google Play
Post by: Finferlo on November 03, 2018, 06:24:58 pm
Re: If I put it off it disappears but the notification does not appear as it appeared in the previous version.

Right if you turn this off - the notification does not appear at all. So it cannot possible "stay behind" if it's not there.

Our QA will be back on Monday and they will try to reproduce.....

Well! Have a nice weekend
Title: Re: Version 1.18.0-1337-dev - "work in progress" - not in Google Play
Post by: WinstonY on November 04, 2018, 02:25:56 pm
Battery use notification

Hi Kostya,

I installed the Dev version and is now receiving an "AquaMail is using battery" tap for details on battery and data usage notification. Last Google play version didn't have this. Is there a way to turn this off?

Thanks,

Winston
Title: Re: Version 1.18.0-1337-dev - "work in progress" - not in Google Play
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on November 04, 2018, 03:32:12 pm
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I installed the Dev version and is now receiving an "AquaMail is using battery" tap for details on battery and data usage notification. Last Google play version didn't have this. Is there a way to turn this off?

Well we're not the ones showing that - Android is. So we can't "hide" it or whatever.

BTW - I get this message on my Samsung S9 every time I unlock the screen, about "Samsung Themes" (which I don't use) - but not on S8 which is identical in every way.... :)

Real question is:

Is Aqua Mail using the battery for you *more* than before?

If so - how much, a little, a lot, catastrophically?

And then can we track it to something specific?

BTW - it would help to know Android version and device make / model in addition to what I already wrote above.
Title: Re: Version 1.18.0-1337-dev - "work in progress" - not in Google Play
Post by: WinstonY on November 04, 2018, 06:44:52 pm
LG Q6 android 8.1
Cant tell yet if AquaMail is using more battery. I'd be able to do this is a few days as I recently installed the Dev version.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Version 1.18.0-1337-dev - "work in progress" - not in Google Play
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on November 04, 2018, 08:57:33 pm
"Details"
"Hide Details"

FR
Détails
Masquer détails

AR
التفاصيل
حجب التفاصيل

Thank you. Build 1342 above.
Title: Re: Version 1.18.0-1342-dev - "work in progress" - not in Google Play
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on November 05, 2018, 08:37:32 pm
Re: Re: This type of notifications do not disappear when the current operation is terminated. It remains frozen as in the screen

@Finferlo

Do you use push mail in Aqua Mail?
Title: Re: Version 1.18.0-1342-dev - "work in progress" - not in Google Play
Post by: Finferlo on November 05, 2018, 08:38:56 pm
Re: Re: This type of notifications do not disappear when the current operation is terminated. It remains frozen as in the screen

@Finferlo

Do you use push mail in Aqua Mail?

Yes
Title: Re: Version 1.18.0-1342-dev - "work in progress" - not in Google Play
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on November 05, 2018, 08:42:02 pm
Re: Yes

Aha! I was able to reproduce "stuck notification" today specifically when also using push mail.
Title: Re: Version 1.18.0-1342-dev - "work in progress" - not in Google Play
Post by: Finferlo on November 05, 2018, 08:44:55 pm
 :)
Title: Re: Version 1.18.0-1342-dev - "work in progress" - not in Google Play
Post by: Finferlo on November 05, 2018, 08:52:24 pm
Re: Yes

Aha! I was able to reproduce "stuck notification" today specifically when also using push mail.

I confirm if I disable the push this problem does not happen and everything works correctly (at least so it seems)
Title: Re: Version 1.18.0-1342-dev - "work in progress" - not in Google Play
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on November 05, 2018, 09:46:18 pm
@Finferlo

Please try:

https://www.aqua-mail.com/staging/AquaMail-market-1.18.0-1343-dev-90c6c1b2f694.apk
Title: Re: Version 1.18.0-1342-dev - "work in progress" - not in Google Play
Post by: Finferlo on November 05, 2018, 09:53:47 pm
@Finferlo

Please try:

https://www.aqua-mail.com/staging/AquaMail-market-1.18.0-1343-dev-90c6c1b2f694.apk

Perfect now it's okay!

Thanks Kostya!
Title: Re: Version 1.18.0-1343-dev - "work in progress" - not in Google Play
Post by: Marko958 on November 06, 2018, 09:33:21 pm
@Finferlo

Please try:

https://www.aqua-mail.com/staging/AquaMail-market-1.18.0-1343-dev-90c6c1b2f694.apk
Unfortunately the link is not working.

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Title: Re: Version 1.18.0-1343-dev - "work in progress" - not in Google Play
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on November 06, 2018, 10:23:06 pm
@Finferlo

Please try:

https://www.aqua-mail.com/staging/AquaMail-market-1.18.0-1343-dev-90c6c1b2f694.apk
Unfortunately the link is not working.

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Just tried it, it worked.

Same version in the topic header:

https://www.aqua-mail.com/download/AquaMail-market-1.18.0-1343-dev-90c6c1b2f694.apk
Title: Re: Version 1.18.0-1343-dev - "work in progress" - not in Google Play
Post by: Marko958 on November 07, 2018, 10:26:26 pm
Now it works. Thx!

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