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English - Android => Development builds => Topic started by: Kostya Vasilyev on May 29, 2018, 07:46:04 pm
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https://www.aqua-mail.com/download/AquaMail-market-1.16.0-1126-dev-4811f1a39d2d.apk
https://www.aqua-mail.com/download/AquaMail-market-1.16.0-1129-dev-38bc049f8126.apk
https://www.aqua-mail.com/download/AquaMail-market-1.16.0-1133-dev-f0c83a321ef4.apk
https://www.aqua-mail.com/download/AquaMail-market-1.16.0-1136-dev-2d75e9f119ab.apk
https://www.aqua-mail.com/download/AquaMail-market-1.16.0-1140-dev-2d03d6fd1748.apk
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+ Updated design: app's main window (account list).
+ Build 1129: more design update "work in progress" smaller things.
Per-folder "total" counts are now hidden by default, can be re-enabled in app settings -> account list -> show per-folder "total" counts.
+ Build 1133: more progress on design update, fixes
+ Build 1136: fixes
+ Build 1140: fixes
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+ Обновлённый дизайн: главный экран программы (список учётных записей).
+ Сборка 1129: дальнейшее обновление дизайна.
Счётчики "общего" количества сообщений на уровне папок теперь отключены по умолчанию, можно включить обратно в настройках - список учётных записей - "всего" сообщений.
+ Сборка 1133: продолжение работы по обновлению дизайна, исправления
+ Сборка 1136: исправления
+ Сборка 1140: исправления
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Looks really really good!
Thank you so much.
Just a few days ago I was thinking that this screen needs some improvement and voila, there it is!
Very happy!
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https://www.aqua-mail.com/download/AquaMail-market-1.16.0-1126-dev-4811f1a39d2d.apk
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+ Updated design: app's main window (account list).
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As this is interface related, I have small feature request. Look and feel have option "back" to close message list. When this is not selected, then from the message list "back" button does not close the app, but moves to the account list.
Can You add similar option for expanded account view, so that if (any) account is expanded (arrow down, account folder list is visible), then "back" button does not close the app, but only closes accounts expanded view?
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Thanks, quickly smartbox access.
Greets, Mathias
Gesendet von meinem SM-G950F mit Tapatalk
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The reason : when there are many accounts, it's not easy to distinguish accounts/folder all displayed with white background - despite the colored band at the left.
+1
That was the first thing that caught my eye.
However, I did not comment immediately because I hope that the current status is just another development step and Kostya will make the background color available again.
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Yes that's what I wanted -- if user assigns a color, he/she wants to see THAT COLOR CLEARLY - but our designer disagreed.
I'll pass along what you guys (Paris Geek and mikeone) wrote and hopefully it might help him see things differently.
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+1
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Thanks to @Paris Geek for his screenshot.
As you can see, in the current version (pure white background for the accounts) the visual distinction between accounts and folders is far too weak.
I really appreciate an option like "Use the assigned color for the account's background". This option could be disabled by default (if the designer is a fan of a clean, colorless white UI. It seems to be nice and "modern", but it is actually impractical for the user 8) ).
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I think maybe changing the account name letters instead of the background to color would look nicer and get enough attention while not destroying the new design.
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I just posted a new build above, # 1129.
No changes to account colors yet - I've told our Project Manager, she's thinking about it.
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No changes to account colors yet - I've told our Project Manager, she's thinking about it.
+1 to what Paris Geek and mikeone are requesting.
Does your designer actually use AM on a day-to-day basis? If not, perhaps he/she should and they'll see that what's being requested would be quite helpful because as it stands now, it's hard to work with. Same for your Project Manager who "is thinking about it."
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加油，继续完善。
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Hi everybody, thanks for your thoughts (and mockups!) on the colored accounts UI!
We're currently experimenting with a couple of options, trying to make the accounts screen look better (without any usability sacrifices, obviously).
We'd like to gather some more feedback from a larger sample of users, so we may post a beta version with the 'colored bars' and see if there are people who like this or more people who dislike it, etc.
Obviously, we're not married to any of the changes we make in terms of design, we're just experimenting and trying to improve things before the official release.
Thanks a lot!
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Please Kostya, could you add an option, in account list settings, to "use account color for account name background" (ie when the user assigns a color to an account, the account name band is displayed with that color as a background - like before).
Ideally, we'd like to avoid adding a new setting where we can. The more settings we have, the more complexity we introduce into the codebase; more complexity == more difficult to maintain and test, etc.
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The current way of displaying looks very classy but has been criticized for lack of immediate visible distinction.
This is probably true for people who have many accounts (me included).
Nevertheless I am really appalled when an app starts looking so blatantly colorized that function rules over design.
Then you get a very unsophisticated "bubble gum" kind of look which I don't enjoy at all and which really doesn't fit into today's direction of making android apps look more and more esthetically pleasing.
I think maybe changing the account name letters instead of the background to color would be a good compromise and aid in visibility of the account.
A valid objection was made, that this would be a problem with lighter colors.
So maybe one could help that situation by using font shadows or font frames, and/or by subtly changing the background so that light and dark colors as well show up nicely.
Simultaneously I think this opportunity should be used to revamp the thread view in inbox etc. when you open a mail and the answers to it in a similar way.
There I also have difficulty orienting myself easily where the thread begins or ends. The traditional tool to make this more obvious would be indentation, but that costs too much screen estate on small phone screen, therefore I think to harmonize this view with the way the account screen would be changed, could be a good idea.
Thank you for listening to your users and for making such a great app.
I know it is not always easy to find the right compromise between a very small percentage of heavy and very vocal users and the vast majority of users and between making an app look truly beautiful.
But I think you have the right mix of resources and (graphical) talent in your team to find a good solution.
This is the great advantage of working with a large app developer that one has these resources available and can make an app look really beautiful.
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@Paris Geek
- RTL folder names - filed a bug, will let the developer know
- Nav drawer navigation - filed a bug, will fix
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Please see a new suggestion (screenshot):
- arrows and spinning wheels are colored
+1
I think this would be a good solution too.
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I just posted build 1133 with these changes:
- Fixed RTL folder names having wrong text alignment
- Fixed "account switcher panel" becoming "disabled"
- Slightly darker color of account names and folders (previous build made them too faded)
Nothing new with per-account colors yet, however...
Lacho (the designer) really is thinking about it, we discussed it today.
At the same time, as he already wrote above, we're going to release a beta version with "bars" to collect feedback / ideas from a larger number of users.
It is understood that these colors have a practical purpose not just visual.
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Ideally, we'd like to avoid adding a new setting where we can. The more settings we have, the more complexity we introduce into the codebase; more complexity == more difficult to maintain and test, etc.
Hm, so you absolutely rightly want to avoid cluttering the settings area, but yet you add this in 1129:
"Per-folder "total" counts are now hidden by default, can be re-enabled in app settings -> account list -> show per-folder "total" counts."
even though I really find that change quite unimportant and think the totals are extremely helpful to beginning and advanced users alike and should be shown be default.
I regard that as a contradiction.
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未下载使用，在观望中，大家测试一下，辛苦了
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"Per-folder "total" counts are now hidden by default, can be re-enabled in app settings -> account list -> show per-folder "total" counts."
That setting's been there for a long time. We just changed the default value.
Total counts are important, but Lacho wanted a "cleaner" appearance.
Also note that for Deleted and Drafts, we show "total" count (instead of unread) if separate "unread / total" counts are not in effect.
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Ok, thank you for explaining. :)
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未下载使用，在观望中，大家测试一下，辛苦了
Please stop posting things like this (google translate: did not download and use.) Negative comments like that do not help anyone. And if you haven't downloaded and tested, then again, there's no need to comment.
This thread is for development builds. One can not test and comment without using beta versions.
Thank you.
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Nothing new with per-account colors yet, however...
Lacho (the designer) really is thinking about it, we discussed it today.
At the same time, as he already wrote above, we're going to release a beta version with "bars" to collect feedback / ideas from a larger number of users.
It is understood that these colors have a practical purpose not just visual.
Glad to hear that :)
BTW: I really like the new ("cleaner") design at all.
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又有更新，不断完善，赞赞赞👍
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1133 is a good improvement over the current market version visually - like it a lot. Thanks.
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等待稳定版就下载安装。
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About "click unread -> get long press" - is the "slightly to the left" an important part?
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RE: About "click unread -> get long press" - is the "slightly to the left" an important part?
OK reproduced.
The "final" click can be "a lot" to the left, not "just a little bit".
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It is hard to navigate my several email accounts without the account color. I'm not sure taking away that option is going to be popular. It's not with me.
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Re: Please see screenshot, and take a breath: it needs dexterity to reproduce it.
Fixed in build 1136 above
Re: It is hard to navigate my several email accounts without the account color.
I've passed your vote along, thank you.
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Re: Inbox and other "incoming" folders need an icon on the left, like in Nav drawer and in Account/folder list (since v16).
Yes makes sense - since we use folder icons on all folder types in account view.
https://www.aqua-mail.com/download/AquaMail-market-1.16.0-1137-dev-172d511395a8.apk
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Found the solution: in folder options, enabling "Unread count" for Spam folder will display the number of unread spams, even when "Show per-forlder total message counts" is set to "Never" (in account list settings).
@Kostya @lpetkov => my request is closed.
For users who are following this thread, please see screenshots.
Thanks to @Paris Geek for let us know this somewhat hidden solution.
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Re: In "move to" screen, it makes sense to remove [Gmail] prefix
Yes. We remove it everywhere else and I can't remember why not on this screen.
https://www.aqua-mail.com/download/AquaMail-market-1.16.0-1138-dev-10dbe4334e82.apk
Added a check for "[Google Mail]" too - used in Germany (I think).
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1133 is a good improvement over the current market version visually - like it a lot. Thanks.
How many accounts do you use? Have you assigned customized colors to your accounts? Thank you
Using 4 accounts - all color coded.
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The Draft's folder icon must be corrected of course. 8)
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Re: The Draft's folder icon must be corrected of course. 8)
We use Google's Material Icons and it is The Drafts Icon:
https://material.io/tools/icons/?search=drafts&icon=drafts&style=baseline
"Mark Read" has apparently has disappeared in the latest revision, but it was identical to Drafts. This is Mark Unread for comparison:
https://material.io/tools/icons/?search=markunread&icon=markunread&style=baseline
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Re: Attached a suggestion for new mark_read_icon
Dude, I'm not the designer here :)
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Re: The Draft's folder icon must be corrected of course. 8)
We use Google's Material Icons and it is The Drafts Icon:
https://material.io/tools/icons/?search=drafts&icon=drafts&style=baseline
"Mark Read" has apparently has disappeared in the latest revision, but it was identical to Drafts. This is Mark Unread for comparison:
https://material.io/tools/icons/?search=markunread&icon=markunread&style=baseline
Then "mark read" icon has to be changed to avoid double use (mark read and drafts).
Attached a suggestion for new mark_read_icon
So, Google has left a gap in their 'fit for use' icon set - no 'mark_read' anymore? It seems strange that they have now released the 'draft' icon previously used for 'mark read'.. .
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I wanted to confirm that [Google Mail] works as expected (meaning it doesn't show next to the folder name)
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Re: I wanted to confirm that [Google Mail] works as expected (meaning it doesn't show next to the folder name)
Thank you.
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在等待稳定版
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在等待稳定版
This is "AquaMail Forum »English"
So please use english.
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在等待稳定版
I asked politely before and now I see others making similar comments. Please use English. And if you're going to post, post something that contributes to the thread. So far nothing you've posted is helpful. "Waiting for the stable version" does no one any good.
Thank you.