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Title: Version 1.8.2-205 - "stable hotfix", not in Play yet
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on February 22, 2017, 06:56:07 pm
https://www.aqua-mail.com/download/AquaMail-market-1.8.2-201-stable-06b5d42df04b.apk

https://www.aqua-mail.com/download/AquaMail-market-1.8.2-203-stable-70299b234948.apk

https://www.aqua-mail.com/download/AquaMail-market-1.8.2-205-stable-7743a9c7eb3d.apk

^^^ AR, DE, FR, TR translations for the new settings. Thanks, guys!

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+ Now possible to turn off both contact images and checkboxes. Settings -> message list.

+ Pure black background for dark themes. Settings -> look and feel.

We intend to post this to Play "soon" but not "today".

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+ Теперь можно скрывать и картинки контактов и галочки. Настройки - список сообщений.

+ Реально чёрный цвет фона для тёмного оформления. Настройки - интерфейс.

Собираемся выложить в Play "скоро" но не "прямо сейчас".
Title: Re: Version 1.8.2-201 - "stable hotfix", not in Play yet
Post by: nica on February 22, 2017, 08:31:21 pm
German (black background):

Schwarzer Hintergrund
Pure schwarze Hintergrundfarbe


German (checkboxes):

Auswahlkästchen
Wenn deaktiviert, Nachrichten durch langes Drücken auswählen
Title: Re: Version 1.8.2-203 - "stable hotfix", not in Play yet
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on February 22, 2017, 08:45:24 pm
Thanks, I updated above:

https://www.aqua-mail.com/download/AquaMail-market-1.8.2-203-stable-70299b234948.apk
Title: Re: Version 1.8.2-201 - "stable hotfix", not in Play yet
Post by: mikeone on February 22, 2017, 10:59:39 pm
Very nice update, thank you.

The bug of not always showing the attachment clip of a compacted conversation in Message list view is also fixed.

This proves again that Kostya (and team) is listening to the users and acting quickly to implement needed developments.
+1
Title: Re: Version 1.8.2-203 - "stable hotfix", not in Play yet
Post by: b8drf on February 23, 2017, 11:11:37 am
Kostya,  Thank you ... This looks so much cleaner now without the checkboxes...

I have just spent an hour or so tweaking the settings and I must admit have managed to get back close to where I was pre: v1. 8 - I may have been a little hasty in rolling back.

One further request that is not configurable is that the new Title & Icon bars are significantly larger than before taking up more top/bottom screen space while the icons inside are actually smaller than before (which is fine).

This not only wastes a little valuable screen space Top/Bottom, but also looks dis-proportionate when compared to the icons. 

Is there a chance you could slim down the bars slightly?

I would appreciate a response/reply if this can be considered.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Version 1.8.2-203 - "stable hotfix", not in Play yet
Post by: mikeone on February 23, 2017, 09:20:42 pm
@support
I suggest to enable the option (Settings -> Message list) -> "Break by date" as default

Since there are many complaints in Google Play Store ratings about this issue.
Title: Re: Version 1.8.2-203 - "stable hotfix", not in Play yet
Post by: mikeone on February 23, 2017, 09:33:38 pm
@support
I suggest to disable the option (Settings -> Message list) -> "Subject above sender" as default

Because there are many complaints in Google Play Store ratings about the confusing order.
Title: Re: Version 1.8.2-203 - "stable hotfix", not in Play yet
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on February 23, 2017, 09:37:25 pm
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One further request that is not configurable is that the new Title & Icon bars are significantly larger than before taking up more top/bottom screen space while the icons inside are actually smaller than before (which is fine).

https://material.io/guidelines/layout/structure.html#structure-app-bar

The size is defined by Android's Material Design theme, 56dp (in Holo, Android 4 and on 5.0+ before 1.8, it was 48dp).

I'm not sure it's "my" thing either, but it's what a lot of users expect.

Re: @mikeone

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I suggest to disable the option (Settings -> Message list) -> "Subject above sender" as default
Because there are many complaints in Google Play Store ratings about the confusing order.

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I suggest to enable the option (Settings -> Message list) -> "Break by date" as default
Since there are many complaints in Google Play Store ratings about this issue.

Thanks, we'll think about it.
Title: Re: Version 1.8.2-203 - "stable hotfix", not in Play yet
Post by: mikeone on February 23, 2017, 09:42:28 pm

Re: @mikeone

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I suggest to disable the option (Settings -> Message list) -> "Subject above sender" as default
Because there are many complaints in Google Play Store ratings about the confusing order.

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I suggest to enable the option (Settings -> Message list) -> "Break by date" as default
Since there are many complaints in Google Play Store ratings about this issue.

Thanks, we'll think about it.
Great, thanks.
Title: Re: Version 1.8.2-203 - "stable hotfix", not in Play yet
Post by: Ayhan Arhan on February 23, 2017, 10:03:31 pm
Hi,

TR

black background > Siyah arka plan
Pure black background color > Saf siyah arka plan rengi

checkboxes > Onay kutuları
when turned off, you can select messages by long pressing > Kapatıldığında, uzun basarak mesajları seçebilirsiniz

Thanks
Title: Re: Version 1.8.2-205 - "stable hotfix", not in Play yet
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on February 23, 2017, 10:25:01 pm
Updated AR, FR and also TR are available above in 1.8.2-205-stable.
Title: Re: Version 1.8.2-205 - "stable hotfix", not in Play yet
Post by: Mark III on February 24, 2017, 12:06:28 am
Hi, i have uncheck  "Settings> Smart folder > Displays sent by me" but i see messages sent in smart folder
Title: Re: Version 1.8.2-205 - "stable hotfix", not in Play yet
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on February 24, 2017, 12:11:18 am
Re: Hi, i have uncheck  "Settings> Smart folder > Displays sent by me" but i see messages sent in smart folder

Could be one of: "show sent messages" (in the nav drawer's navigation drawer) or app settings -> conversations -> "across messages".
Title: Re: Version 1.8.2-205 - "stable hotfix", not in Play yet
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on February 24, 2017, 12:17:27 am
FWIW, "Displays sent by me" only affects how sent messages are *presented* in the smart folder.
Title: Re: Version 1.8.2-205 - "stable hotfix", not in Play yet
Post by: Mark III on February 24, 2017, 12:26:45 am
Thank you!  ;)
Title: Re: Version 1.8.2-203 - "stable hotfix", not in Play yet
Post by: b8drf on February 24, 2017, 12:04:06 pm
Hi,

TR

black background > Siyah arka plan
Pure black background color > Saf siyah arka plan rengi

checkboxes > Onay kutuları
when turned off, you can select messages by long pressing > Kapatıldığında, uzun basarak mesajları seçebilirsiniz

I noticed that in the last 2 updates, 1.8.2-203 & 205 - when checkboxes are turned off, you can still select (versus read) the message by touching the far left of the message header (versus long press) - not sure if this is by design or maybe related to when there was "ticks marks" to the far left of the message pre version 203 ...

Thanks
Title: Re: Version 1.8.2-205 - "stable hotfix", not in Play yet
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on February 24, 2017, 02:47:23 pm
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I noticed that in the last 2 updates, 1.8.2-203 & 205 - when checkboxes are turned off, you can still select (versus read) the message by touching the far left of the message header (versus long press) - not sure if this is by design or maybe related to when there was "ticks marks" to the far left of the message pre version 203 ...

Hmm... Yes, true, I missed it. Should I remove it or keep the ability to select by touching (seems useful)?
Title: Re: Version 1.8.2-205 - "stable hotfix", not in Play yet
Post by: this_is_nascar on February 24, 2017, 03:03:16 pm
Any reason these colors can't be the same?

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170224/d0d558a398dc004dfe3a8ad1b0f8a793.jpg)

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Title: Re: Version 1.8.2-205 - "stable hotfix", not in Play yet
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on February 24, 2017, 03:10:15 pm
Re: Any reason these colors can't be the same?

The FAB vs. the action bar? They are how the designers designed them.

Google's guidelines call for an even more drastic difference (their examples use a blue action bar and a pink FAB).
Title: Re: Version 1.8.2-205 - "stable hotfix", not in Play yet
Post by: this_is_nascar on February 24, 2017, 03:43:42 pm
The bar at the top that says Smart Folder vs the circle at the bottom.  It sucks if they can't be the same color.

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Title: Re: Version 1.8.2-205 - "stable hotfix", not in Play yet
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on February 24, 2017, 03:55:00 pm
Re: The bar at the top that says Smart Folder vs the circle at the bottom.  It sucks if they can't be the same color.

Yes that's exactly what I meant above, the "FAB" (Floating Action Button).
Title: Re: Version 1.8.2-205 - "stable hotfix", not in Play yet
Post by: nica on February 24, 2017, 04:19:56 pm
The bar at the top that says Smart Folder vs the circle at the bottom.  It sucks if they can't be the same color.

According to guidelines for material design they should have different colors.


There is a difference between "primary" color and "accent" color. See more here:
https://material.io/guidelines/style/color.html#color-color-schemes (https://material.io/guidelines/style/color.html#color-color-schemes)


That's the way most apps do.
Title: Re: Version 1.8.2-205 - "stable hotfix", not in Play yet
Post by: mikeone on February 24, 2017, 04:57:35 pm
The bar at the top that says Smart Folder vs the circle at the bottom.  It sucks if they can't be the same color.

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I also prefer to have the same color for both (the top bar / Account header and the FAB)
Title: Re: Version 1.8.2-205 - "stable hotfix", not in Play yet
Post by: mikeone on February 24, 2017, 04:59:18 pm
Quote
I noticed that in the last 2 updates, 1.8.2-203 & 205 - when checkboxes are turned off, you can still select (versus read) the message by touching the far left of the message header (versus long press) - not sure if this is by design or maybe related to when there was "ticks marks" to the far left of the message pre version 203 ...

Hmm... Yes, true, I missed it. Should I remove it or keep the ability to select by touching (seems useful)?

Please keep this ability. It's very useful
+1
Title: Re: Version 1.8.2-205 - "stable hotfix", not in Play yet
Post by: mikeone on February 24, 2017, 05:07:49 pm
The bar at the top that says Smart Folder vs the circle at the bottom.  It sucks if they can't be the same color.

According to guidelines for material design they should have different colors.


There is a difference between "primary" color and "accent" color. See more here:
https://material.io/guidelines/style/color.html#color-color-schemes (https://material.io/guidelines/style/color.html#color-color-schemes)


That's the way most apps do.
I agree with the guidelines (use different colors for the top bar and FAB) only if these could overlap, but this situation does not exist in AquaMail.

Using the same color looks more harmonious.
Title: Re: Version 1.8.2-205 - "stable hotfix", not in Play yet
Post by: this_is_nascar on February 24, 2017, 06:28:35 pm
The bar at the top that says Smart Folder vs the circle at the bottom.  It sucks if they can't be the same color.

According to guidelines for material design they should have different colors.


There is a difference between "primary" color and "accent" color. See more here:
https://material.io/guidelines/style/color.html#color-color-schemes (https://material.io/guidelines/style/color.html#color-color-schemes)


That's the way most apps do.

Even though I have requested a change here (see link), in line with your request, I think now that it's not so important, since we are able to customize the color in
Settings -> Look and feel -> "Title bar and icon bar color"

link: https://www.aqua-mail.com/forum/index.php?topic=5317.msg31325#msg31325
I'll have to check that out.

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Title: Re: Version 1.8.2-205 - "stable hotfix", not in Play yet
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on February 24, 2017, 08:36:20 pm
Sorry I'm not The Designer.

The action bar color can be changed, the FAB will automatically become same color only a bit darker (it always worked this way).

Maybe (maybe!) will will have a setting for FAB color at some point, but I can't promise.
Title: Re: Version 1.8.2-205 - "stable hotfix", not in Play yet
Post by: mikeone on March 08, 2017, 07:56:03 pm

Re: @mikeone

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I suggest to disable the option (Settings -> Message list) -> "Subject above sender" as default
Because there are many complaints in Google Play Store ratings about the confusing order.

Quote
I suggest to enable the option (Settings -> Message list) -> "Break by date" as default
Since there are many complaints in Google Play Store ratings about this issue.

Thanks, we'll think about it.
Too bad that these two "default settings" didn't make it into the just released stable version 1.8.2,
https://www.aqua-mail.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=11726

I expect even more of such "negative" feedback from the users...

Thank you so much! :)
I don't understand why it have been changed with app update, but i'm glad that is working :)
Thanks again!.
https://www.aqua-mail.com/forum/index.php?topic=5492.msg32979#msg32979
Title: Re: Version 1.8.2-205 - "stable hotfix", not in Play yet
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on March 08, 2017, 08:50:33 pm
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Too bad that these two "default settings" didn't make it into the just released stable version 1.8.2,
https://www.aqua-mail.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=11726

I expect even more of such "negative" feedback from the users...

According to our QA / support person (Nadia), she responds to users who complain about it, and then they know what to change.

The appearance is cleaner without the "break by date", so it's better for new users.
Title: Re: Version 1.8.2-205 - "stable hotfix", not in Play yet
Post by: mikeone on March 08, 2017, 11:28:16 pm
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Too bad that these two "default settings" didn't make it into the just released stable version 1.8.2,
https://www.aqua-mail.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=11726

I expect even more of such "negative" feedback from the users...

According to our QA / support person (Nadia), she responds to users who complain about it, and then they know what to change.

The appearance is cleaner without the "break by date", so it's better for new users.
Okay, I understood for new users.

But why is the user's own (existing) setting changed during the upgrade process?
Title: Re: Version 1.8.2-205 - "stable hotfix", not in Play yet
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on March 09, 2017, 12:50:38 am
Re: But why is the user's own (existing) setting changed during the upgrade process?

Because we thought it would be a good idea --

just the same as there are *existing* users who liked the "group by date", there are also those who didn't, and never knew it could be switched off.

There are two sides to this "coin".
Title: Re: Version 1.8.2-205 - "stable hotfix", not in Play yet
Post by: this_is_nascar on March 09, 2017, 02:16:16 pm
I'm sorry, but I'm of the opinion that the developer has no right to change a user's settings via an update, especially if it's a product that the end user paid for.

Make the change available and tell the user about it, but don't take it upon yourself to alter your customers settings.


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