Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on January 20, 2017, 11:18:44 pm
Для обратной связи по обновлению дизайна в 1.8. Я передам в Отдел Дизайна.
Post by: BratHuhn on January 20, 2017, 11:34:19 pm
The counter for conversation-messages is in My opinion in The last Position righthanded better. Optimal space usage..
In this Version The APP crashes when trying to open The debugmenu in settings.
Edit: seems to crash on other settings AS well
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on January 21, 2017, 02:07:12 am
Post by: StR on January 21, 2017, 05:24:20 am
Post by: paras.desai on January 21, 2017, 05:49:08 am
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Post by: Dmitry_N on January 21, 2017, 12:04:54 pm
I'm missing it.
PS: I do like the new program icon a lot, by the way.
Post by: pyler on January 21, 2017, 12:16:56 pm
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on January 21, 2017, 12:24:00 pm
What's the phone's make / model / Android version?
Which Aqua Mail theme are you using?
Some phones only have room for one icon + overflow (three dots) and that "one icon" is going to be "search" (because there is another way to refresh, by pulling).
Post by: Dmitry_N on January 21, 2017, 03:42:59 pm
Re: refresh icon on the app's main screenSamsung Galaxy S7 edge. Plenty of room there.
What's the phone's make / model / Android version?
Which Aqua Mail theme are you using?
Some phones only have room for one icon + overflow (three dots) and that "one icon" is going to be "search" (because there is another way to refresh, by pulling).
Post by: srt10coupe on January 21, 2017, 06:25:08 pm
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on January 21, 2017, 10:14:54 pm
I remember now. This changed in 1.7 I believe, not sure it was 100% intentional, I'll take a look.
Post by: ksuuk on January 21, 2017, 11:55:43 pm
Please post your feedback on the 1.8 design refresh here. I will pass it on to the Design Team.
I don't like the new colors, they are faded and uncertain. The old blue was perfect. Also the action bar in message view is in now without any color and not so visible (however position is better) like it was berfore.
And new logo is also typical and boring, plus reminds some others alternatives, typical envelope mode - just open Google Play and search for "imap client" and You get what I mean.
Honestly I don't get why new owner hates customers, why fix something what isn't broken? But I guess the visual change is the new owner "must have similar design like our other apps" request and all we can do is drop it or get used to:(.
Edit: Please add option to use old light material template or at least add old blue color into look & feel, title bar color menu, right now there are different, but not the original blue (I don't know it's hex value either) colors.
Post by: mikeone on January 22, 2017, 12:42:15 am
Please have a look also into this thread with lots of suggestions from Paris Geek (... and some other forum members 8)):
http://www.aqua-mail.com/forum/index.php?topic=5317.0
Post by: beerlao on January 22, 2017, 11:18:51 am
I don't like the new colors, they are faded and uncertain. The old blue was perfect. Also the action bar in message view is in now without any color and not so visible (however position is better) like it was berfore.
And new logo is also typical and boring, plus reminds some others alternatives, typical envelope mode - just open Google Play and search for "imap client" and You get what I mean.
Taste is different, I like the slight design changes way more than the old look. Looks more modern. Simple is beautiful.
Post by: heisert on January 22, 2017, 03:15:04 pm
Thanks
Post by: ksuuk on January 22, 2017, 04:31:31 pm
Taste is different, I like the slight design changes way more than the old look. Looks more modern. Simple is beautiful.
The old was simple and less. New is overtuned and more. But I'm curious, what is the real reason for new logo?
Post by: ksuuk on January 22, 2017, 04:32:26 pm
Are you mentioning what I have already reported:
http://www.aqua-mail.com/forum/index.php?topic=5317.msg31319#msg31319
or something else?
Same.
Post by: ksuuk on January 22, 2017, 04:36:21 pm
@ksuuk
Please have a look also into this thread with lots of suggestions from Paris Geek (... and some other forum members 8)):
http://www.aqua-mail.com/forum/index.php?topic=5317.0
I did. Strange, Kostya have locked the "Feature requests" thread and instead of adding more functionality to app, now the full power goes to the external visual layout. This sounds not the "Kostya style" at all:).
Post by: mikeone on January 22, 2017, 04:54:03 pm
in my opinion it's rather the other way around:Taste is different, I like the slight design changes way more than the old look. Looks more modern. Simple is beautiful.
The old was simple and less. New is overtuned and more. But I'm curious, what is the real reason for new logo?
-> the new design looks 'fresh' and more modern: quite slight and simple, almost too simple 8). But, as mentioned by @beelaro: "Taste is different"
Post by: mikeone on January 22, 2017, 05:14:05 pm
The "Feature requests" section on the forum was@ksuuk
Please have a look also into this thread with lots of suggestions from Paris Geek (... and some other forum members 8)):
http://www.aqua-mail.com/forum/index.php?topic=5317.0
I did. Strange, Kostya have locked the "Feature requests" thread and instead of adding more functionality to app, now the full power goes to the external visual layout. This sounds not the "Kostya style" at all:).
locked already a long time ago (almost three years ago) by Kostya.
And I'm sure that adding more functionality will continue even with the new owner of the app.
However, to give the app a new 'more modern' design and a new app logo is IMO nevertheless quite understandable.
Post by: pyler on January 22, 2017, 05:24:51 pm
Post by: mikeone on January 22, 2017, 05:36:29 pm
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on January 22, 2017, 07:58:37 pm
Always been like that. On 4.* devices, when the FAB is off, the app uses "split" icon bars (along the bottom), so we can't have the floating bars in this case.
Post by: julio66 on January 23, 2017, 02:41:14 am
Regarding the design for rest of the app, overall a excellent work too, and a GREAT idea for the icons in the Main list.
Nicely used colors.
KEEP UP THE EXCELLENT WORK PEOPLE ;D
Post by: Kontact on January 23, 2017, 08:08:47 am
I have made sure that "Thin Fonts" and "Auto-fit" are unchecked and also tried tweaking the colour where allowed but I just could not replicate the legibility of the old design. Changing the size of the font using the volume key or via the View menu option does not help because it enlarges everything en masse and reduces the visible contents of a single screen.
I am utterly frustrated at this point and would appreciate all the help I can get.
Thanks.
Post by: miksmith on January 23, 2017, 10:58:03 am
Like icon, amd deaign refresh is harmonious and easy on the eye
Post by: kostas77 on January 23, 2017, 05:02:34 pm
I tried the new build and everything works great. Just a small suggestion, if I may:
Could you please add an option to colour the device's navigation bar same colour as the top bar (i.e. same manner as Solid Explorer has)?
I know it's only about aesthetics, but as I said, I have encountered no problems with AquaMail - everything works great.
Post by: mikeone on January 23, 2017, 05:06:36 pm
Could you please add an option to colour the device's navigation bar same colour as the top bar (i.e. same manner as Solid Explorer has)?+1
Post by: kostas77 on January 23, 2017, 10:09:51 pm
Could you please add an option to colour the device's navigation bar same colour as the top bar (i.e. same manner as Solid Explorer has)?+1
Not sure to understand the request. I'm joining a screenshot comparing Solid Explorer and AquaMail. What's the suggestion here ? Thanks
I am referring to an on-screen navigation bar; If I understand correctly, you are not using one, or have harware keys (?).
Solid Explorer looks like this on my phone. The navigation bar takes the same colour as the action bar. There is such an option in the Settings ("Coloured navbar").
To be honest, with the new version that has enabled a material dark theme, it doesn't bother me that much. In the previous versions I had to use the material light theme and the action bar was set to red (by me) whereas the navigation bar to blue (based on a dynamic navbar that takes the colouring of each app's primary colour, aka blue for AquaMail).
Post by: Latour on January 24, 2017, 07:02:07 pm
I don't see how...
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on January 24, 2017, 08:32:52 pm
Maybe later (needs some non-trivial code changes).
Post by: kostas77 on January 24, 2017, 09:45:19 pm
Yes. I thought so...Quote from: kostas77 link=topic=5314.msg31438#msg31438
... If I understand correctly, you are not using one, or have harware keys (?).
This is a Samsung device, Android buttons are outside the phone screen.
Re: I am referring to an on-screen navigation bar
Maybe later (needs some non-trivial code changes).
That's quite all right. Thank you for considering.
Post by: ewill on January 25, 2017, 07:08:58 am
One minor item, the received time on the message list is quite small, could that be made a bit larger.
Thanks
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Post by: julio66 on January 27, 2017, 01:30:30 am
Just had another comment/question on the new design;
The new icons infront of the text in the "folder list" (opening the app), i have now got some cute small icons infront of DRAFT, SENT and DELETED ....but isn't it a possibility to also add for the rest of the names...as for INBOX, SPAM, ALL MAIL etc etc? Then it would be a bit more complete don't you think?
Post by: dcortez on January 27, 2017, 08:29:29 am
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Post by: mikeone on January 27, 2017, 09:59:23 pm
I like the new design except for the counter used in conversation view. I prefer it to be on the right vs the left side. For now I've disabled it. Thanks for considering my feedback.+1
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The thread counter (in message list) should be moved back to the right side: you can use the same position where the message size is displayed.
This could be implemented in the context with @Paris Geek's suggestion:
PG design refresh remark 11
Change date field place - put it where it was before:
https://www.aqua-mail.com/forum/index.php?topic=5317.msg31342#msg31342
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on January 27, 2017, 10:15:56 pm
"Complete and consistent" is good, but space there is limited, and the "special" folders are really "special" (drafts / sent / deleted), the others are "just folders", so having an icon next to each would be kind of redundant...
We're thinking about it (the Design Team is).
Post by: mikeone on January 27, 2017, 10:32:21 pm
Re: The new icons infront of the text in the "folder list" (opening the app), i have now got some cute small icons infront of DRAFT, SENT and DELETED ....but isn't it a possibility to also add for the rest of the names...as for INBOX, SPAM, ALL MAIL etc etc? Then it would be a bit more complete don't you think?IMO "Inbox", "Spam", "Archiv" and Gmail's labels "All Maassagel" / "Important" are also specific folder vs. all other "(just) folders".
"Complete and consistent" is good, but space there is limited, and the "special" folders are really "special" (drafts / sent / deleted), the others are "just folders", so having an icon next to each would be kind of redundant...
We're thinking about it (the Design Team is).
Therefore @julio66's suggestion would be useful to identify these 'special" folders at a glance.
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on January 27, 2017, 10:33:58 pm
Yes, understood.
And then you'd want to label "all other folders" too, so they're not sitting there shivering in the cold, without a nice icon to keep them warm.
So in the end, you'd have an icon next to each and every folder on the apps' main screen. Would this be too much or not?
Post by: mikeone on January 27, 2017, 10:47:10 pm
Re: IMO "Inbox", "Spam", "Archiv" and Gmail's labels "All Mail" / "Important" are also specific folder vs. all other "(just) folders".I understand, but it would be as it already looks in the navigation drawer:
Yes, understood.
And then you'd want to label "all other folders" too, so they're not sitting there shivering in the cold, without a nice icon to keep them warm.
So in the end, you'd have an icon next to each and every folder on the apps' main screen. Would this be too much or not?
Post by: mikeone on January 27, 2017, 11:12:29 pm
How about a compromise:Re: IMO "Inbox", "Spam", "Archiv" and Gmail's labels "All Mail" / "Important" are also specific folder vs. all other "(just) folders".I understand, but it would be as it already looks in the navigation drawer:
Yes, understood.
And then you'd want to label "all other folders" too, so they're not sitting there shivering in the cold, without a nice icon to keep them warm.
So in the end, you'd have an icon next to each and every folder on the apps' main screen. Would this be too much or not?
There are less numbers in nav drawer than in Account view.
And in Nav drawer, it's only one account.
Ok as an option.
Icons by default only for 'special / system folders":
- Inbox
- Spam
- Important (Gmail's label)
- All messages (Gmail's label)
- Archiv
- Drafts
- Sent
- Deleted
- Other folders... (this special item to connect to other folders)
Additional as an Option for:
- all other (individual) folders
Post by: nica on January 31, 2017, 11:42:39 pm
On phone it's perfect, but on tablet (9,7" portrait mode, two columms of attachments) it is too big. Area in height for just one attachment is bigger than my finger :)
Post by: Davey126 on February 04, 2017, 07:12:41 pm
Please post your feedback on the 1.8 design refresh here. I will pass it on to the Design Team.- detest washed out color scheme; please bring back option for vivid colors
- prefer conversation message count on right (previous location)
- new app icon is generic, nodescript; could be anyone's mail app icon
- new folder ions look great and are a welcome addition
- relocation of settings button takes some getting use to ...
Post by: mikeone on February 04, 2017, 08:17:52 pm
- new app icon is generic, nodescript; could be anyone's mail app iconI really like the new app icon/logo, since the new color (aquamarine) and also the design (the 'wave' within the open envelope) refers to the name 'AquaMail' very well.
Post by: mikeone on February 04, 2017, 08:23:16 pm
- detest washed out color scheme; please bring back option for vivid colorsKostya has confirmed in one of his recent post that this option will return soon:
https://www.aqua-mail.com/download/AquaMail-market-1.8.0-168-dev-903b01f044a7.apk
...
- Contact "chip" colors will soon be made a little brighter, but that's not in this build
Post by: mikeone on February 04, 2017, 08:41:08 pm
- prefer conversation message count on right (previous location)+1
... and also mentioned by a couple of other users here in this thread:
https://www.aqua-mail.com/forum/index.php?topic=5314.msg31288#msg31288
https://www.aqua-mail.com/forum/index.php?topic=5314.msg31525#msg31525
Post by: Davey126 on February 04, 2017, 09:09:38 pm
Kostya has confirmed in one of his recent post that this option will return soon:Saw that. Hoping "a little brighter" restores previous brightness levels (perhaps as an option)https://www.aqua-mail.com/download/AquaMail-market-1.8.0-168-dev-903b01f044a7.apk
...
- Contact "chip" colors will soon be made a little brighter, but that's not in this build
I really like the new app icon/logo, since the new color (aquamarine) and also the design (the 'wave' within the open envelope) refers to the name 'AquaMail' very well.I don't dislike the new icon (it's rather nice) but doesn't stand apart from other mail apps IMO
Post by: mikeone on February 05, 2017, 01:06:54 am
I agree on both / all points :)
Post by: nica on February 05, 2017, 02:02:50 am
I don't dislike the new icon (it's rather nice) but doesn't stand apart from other mail apps IMO
I like the idea, shape and design of the new icon. This is like a modern icon should be.
But when I saw this aquamarine color for the first time, I was shocked. It seemed to be too loud and glaring. Compatible to colors of homescreens of a lot of users? So I change the color by myself for one day.
Meanwhile I changed my mind. This icon - and its color - IS unique. It is well designed and will be recognized easily though it is a serious icon (and not a dog :)).
Post by: agpol07 on February 05, 2017, 12:26:01 pm
- prefer conversation message count on right (previous location)
I agree with this, too.
Post by: Davey126 on February 05, 2017, 06:23:20 pm
Post by: ZT1 on February 05, 2017, 08:52:39 pm
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on February 05, 2017, 10:03:39 pm
Quote
Just encountered the new horizontal FCB...or perhaps just noticed it (d'uh). Definately prefer horizontal over the previous vertical orientation for consistency with other apps. Nice.
The side location is more practical, but please note that we've added "overscroll padding" to message list -- e.g. you're always guaranteed to be able to scroll the list far enough so the bar doesn't overlap any message list items.
Post by: kukrapok on February 06, 2017, 11:37:54 pm
I'm looking at my gf's phone, where AquaMail "before redesign" is still running, and definitely the bottom bar *is* handy, it provides much more actions.
A customizable button bar would definitly satisfy me and probably a lot of people, it would be about usability, but wasn't it customizable before??
Tested on Samsung A3-2016 (HD screen in vertical mode always).
Other things:
- I use a dark theme in AquaMail, and customized quite everything customizable about colors in message list (to fit my tastes, and to take advantage of my AMOLED screen by using real black backgrounds). After this new design has applied, some of my message list personalizations were lost, but I didn't care much as I could set everything up again.
- wasn't it possible to customize colors for the email size in message list?
The new colors I didn't noticed much, since I customize quite everything possible, but the global look seemed to me smoother and still of a good material design. I don't prefer it to the former one, and I don't miss the former one, say that I'm neutral, and that both are fine :-).
Post by: Davey126 on February 07, 2017, 12:34:06 am
I'm not sure if I noticed all the changes in this new design, but I'm really missing the button bar for actions, that was at bottom of screen when some emails were selected. Whatever it's at bottom or top I don't really care, but the top button bar only show 2 icons here, for instance: "<- 2 messages [trash] [mark-as-read] [submenu]". And for 80% of my workflow, I have to unroll the menu to find other actions, this is annoying. The previous button bar was containing more buttons (directly accessible buttons were matching 80% of my workflow). In both three cases in a folder (nothing selected, unread emails selected, read message selected, I don't talk about mixed cases), the default actions directly possible do *not* fit my needs for a comfortable/quick use.Trying to understand what you are seeing as I didn't pickup on any take-aways with the new design. Wonder if 'Floating context bar' is deselected under 'Look and feel'? I have been using the FCB since it was introduced so may not appreciate (remember) the extended static button bar you are referring to. Actions in the FCB match 80% of my workflow without resorting to the overflow; then it's close to 100%. That said, I can understand the desire to customize as no two people have the same needs.
I'm looking at my gf's phone, where AquaMail "before redesign" is still running, and definitely the bottom bar *is* handy, it provides much more actions.
Post by: kukrapok on February 07, 2017, 12:52:26 am
I'm not sure if I noticed all the changes in this new design, but I'm really missing the button bar for actions, that was at bottom of screen when some emails were selected. Whatever it's at bottom or top I don't really care, but the top button bar only show 2 icons here, for instance: "<- 2 messages [trash] [mark-as-read] [submenu]". And for 80% of my workflow, I have to unroll the menu to find other actions, this is annoying. The previous button bar was containing more buttons (directly accessible buttons were matching 80% of my workflow). In both three cases in a folder (nothing selected, unread emails selected, read message selected, I don't talk about mixed cases), the default actions directly possible do *not* fit my needs for a comfortable/quick use.Trying to understand what you are seeing as I didn't pickup on any take-aways with the new design. Wonder if 'Floating context bar' is deselected under 'Look and feel'? I have been using the FCB since it was introduced so may not appreciate (remember) the extended static button bar you are referring to. Actions in the FCB match 80% of my workflow without resorting to the overflow; then it's close to 100%. That said, I can understand the desire to customize as no two people have the same needs.
I'm looking at my gf's phone, where AquaMail "before redesign" is still running, and definitely the bottom bar *is* handy, it provides much more actions.
Hi Davey, thanks for replying! :-)
You are right, the FCB was disabled, and I didn't use it because to turn it on, you have to turn the FAB on. I never turned the FAB on because it puts a floating button in a place that it not smart (to me) whereas it doesn't eat more place when the reply button is in the top bar. In fact I don't see the point in using the FAB and the FCB, which take way too much room on "small" screens whereas static bars takes less room and provide the same features. But I understand other people might think differently :-).
I'm not sure if the FCB enabling could be made independant from the FAB enabling, would it make any sense?
Anyway, looking at what the FCB contains, it's only 50% of my workflow that is directly accessible, 50% is still in the submenu :-). The gain doesn't worth the extra room eaten on screen. Customizable bars, whatever they are static top/bottom or floating, would help.. The hell w/ designing human interfaces ;-).
Post by: mikeone on February 07, 2017, 01:32:27 am
Anyway, looking at what the FCB contains, it's only 50% of my workflow that is directly accessible, 50% is still in the submenu :-). The gain doesn't worth the extra room eaten on screen. Customizable bars, whatever they are static top/bottom or floating, would help.. The hell w/ designing human interfaces ;-).Hi,
"My" FCB contains DELETE, MARK READ/UNREAD, STAR/UNSTAR, MOVE TO FOLDER... and these actions match my needs to 90%. In the submenu are only a few other actions (Delete permanently, Hide (keep on server), Move to Spam, Select all, Show header) which I'm using really, really rare.
However, I second your suggestion to make the FCB icons customizable just like the action buttons in 'message view'.
Post by: Davey126 on February 07, 2017, 04:40:07 am
@mikeone - I agree with both observations and 2nd your 2nd in response to @kukrapok's suggestion :) . Hopefully the design team will give it consideration for a future release.Anyway, looking at what the FCB contains, it's only 50% of my workflow that is directly accessible, 50% is still in the submenu :-). The gain doesn't worth the extra room eaten on screen. Customizable bars, whatever they are static top/bottom or floating, would help.. The hell w/ designing human interfaces ;-).Hi,
"My" FCB contains DELETE, MARK READ/UNREAD, STAR/UNSTAR, MOVE TO FOLDER... and these actions match my needs to 90%. In the submenu are only a few other actions (Delete permanently, Hide (keep on server), Move to Spam, Select all, Show header) which I'm using really, really rare.
However, I second your suggestion to make the FCB icons customizable just like the action buttons in 'message view'.
Post by: StR on February 07, 2017, 06:52:50 am
(Or was it about the message view action buttons? Ghm... No, I think it was about FCB...)
So, just in case, explicitly: I add my voice to that suggestion now. ;)
Post by: julio66 on February 08, 2017, 01:49:35 am
- The context action bar (message actions) again has dark background for better contrast
I guess you here talk about the floating action bar and i have to say I have absolutely NO UNDERSTANDING for WHY it was changed back to dark background....
When it was introduced with white background and black/grey icons I was AMAZED that finally Aquamail is getting more consistent regarding keeping a nice and clean design. I have a LIGHT theme chosen and the white actionbar looked beautiful like this, BUT MORE IMPORTANT...it was 10 times easier to see when using the phone outside with sunshine/bright light. Now when it went back to dark background I have to use the brightness slider all the time just to see it good.
I have no understanding at all why it can't be left as white, just to be in the same style as the "default" light theme, and if anyone wants a dark one....why don't make it dark for the dark theme???
And now since we are talking about light and dark and good contrast....why hadn't there been done anything yet with the font color in the mainwindow of accounts. Here you see the title AQUAMAIL PRO changing from black to white font depending on what color you choose as main color of the app....like me using the second most common Material Style Color, BlueGrey, in both app window and as assigned color for my account...but the account name, the status of checking/sending mail etc etc can't be read because the font are in black?????
Post by: Davey126 on February 08, 2017, 03:54:01 pm
In dev version xxx. 168 there was made one change saying;Although I have no personal preference on this one the dark FCB background does seem inconsistent with the white background used in overflow menus - including the one that can be invoked from within the FCB.
- The context action bar (message actions) again has dark background for better contrast
I guess you here talk about the floating action bar and i have to say I have absolutely NO UNDERSTANDING for WHY it was changed back to dark background....
When it was introduced with white background and black/grey icons I was AMAZED that finally Aquamail is getting more consistent regarding keeping a nice and clean design. I have a LIGHT theme chosen and the white actionbar looked beautiful like this, BUT MORE IMPORTANT...it was 10 times easier to see when using the phone outside with sunshine/bright light. Now when it went back to dark background I have to use the brightness slider all the time just to see it good.
I have no understanding at all why it can't be left as white, just to be in the same style as the "default" light theme, and if anyone wants a dark one....why don't make it dark for the dark theme???
And now since we are talking about light and dark and good contrast....why hadn't there been done anything yet with the font color in the mainwindow of accounts. Here you see the title AQUAMAIL PRO changing from black to white font depending on what color you choose as main color of the app....like me using the second most common Material Style Color, BlueGrey, in both app window and as assigned color for my account...but the account name, the status of checking/sending mail etc etc can't be read because the font are in black?????Not seeing this but rather a foreground color that does not adapt to the chosen background. See attached example (not what I use...just demonstrating).
Edit I: was able to reproduce some of the dark contrast issues reported above using the light (non-material design) theme.
Post by: julio66 on February 09, 2017, 03:33:22 am
In dev version xxx. 168 there was made one change saying;
- The context action bar (message actions) again has dark background for better contrast
I guess you here talk about the floating action bar and i have to say I have absolutely NO UNDERSTANDING for WHY it was changed back to dark background....
When it was introduced with white background and black/grey icons I was AMAZED that finally Aquamail is getting more consistent regarding keeping a nice and clean design. I have a LIGHT theme chosen and the white actionbar looked beautiful like this, BUT MORE IMPORTANT...it was 10 times easier to see when using the phone outside with sunshine/bright light. Now when it went back to dark background I have to use the brightness slider all the time just to see it good.
I have no understanding at all why it can't be left as white, just to be in the same style as the "default" light theme, and if anyone wants a dark one....why don't make it dark for the dark theme???
And now since we are talking about light and dark and good contrast....why hadn't there been done anything yet with the font color in the mainwindow of accounts. Here you see the title AQUAMAIL PRO changing from black to white font depending on what color you choose as main color of the app....like me using the second most common Material Style Color, BlueGrey, in both app window and as assigned color for my account...but the account name, the status of checking/sending mail etc etc can't be read because the font are in black?????
This post is a duplicate of another one here on the forum to which I've replied in detail.
https://www.aqua-mail.com/forum/index.php?topic=5317.msg31881#msg31881
In dev version xxx. 168 there was made one change saying;
- The context action bar (message actions) again has dark background for better contrast
I guess you here talk about the floating action bar and i have to say I have absolutely NO UNDERSTANDING for WHY it was changed back to dark background....
When it was introduced with white background and black/grey icons I was AMAZED that finally Aquamail is getting more consistent regarding keeping a nice and clean design. I have a LIGHT theme chosen and the white actionbar looked beautiful like this, BUT MORE IMPORTANT...it was 10 times easier to see when using the phone outside with sunshine/bright light. Now when it went back to dark background I have to use the brightness slider all the time just to see it good.
I have no understanding at all why it can't be left as white, just to be in the same style as the "default" light theme, and if anyone wants a dark one....why don't make it dark for the dark theme???
And now since we are talking about light and dark and good contrast....why hadn't there been done anything yet with the font color in the mainwindow of accounts. Here you see the title AQUAMAIL PRO changing from black to white font depending on what color you choose as main color of the app....like me using the second most common Material Style Color, BlueGrey, in both app window and as assigned color for my account...but the account name, the status of checking/sending mail etc etc can't be read because the font are in black?????
This post is a duplicate of another one here on the forum to which I've replied in detail.
https://www.aqua-mail.com/forum/index.php?topic=5317.msg31881#msg31881
I removed duplicate in other post. Was confused of two topics with same title......
Now, here in this topic it belongs.....
Post by: julio66 on February 09, 2017, 03:55:35 am
In dev version xxx. 168 there was made one change saying;
- The context action bar (message actions) again has dark background for better contrast
I guess you here talk about the floating action bar and i have to say I have absolutely NO UNDERSTANDING for WHY it was changed back to dark background....
When it was introduced with white background and black/grey icons I was AMAZED that finally Aquamail is getting more consistent regarding keeping a nice and clean design. I have a LIGHT theme chosen and the white actionbar looked beautiful like this, BUT MORE IMPORTANT...it was 10 times easier to see when using the phone outside with sunshine/bright light. Now when it went back to dark background I have to use the brightness slider all the time just to see it good.
I have no understanding at all why it can't be left as white, just to be in the same style as the "default" light theme, and if anyone wants a dark one....why don't make it dark for the dark theme???
And now since we are talking about light and dark and good contrast....why hadn't there been done anything yet with the font color in the mainwindow of accounts. Here you see the title AQUAMAIL PRO changing from black to white font depending on what color you choose as main color of the app....like me using the second most common Material Style Color, BlueGrey, in both app window and as assigned color for my account...but the account name, the status of checking/sending mail etc etc can't be read because the font are in black?????
Here I add some requested screenshots so people can see what I mean.
Remember that you outside in sunlight have a totally different view of the screen, and as seen on first screen shot (account view) being able to use a darker Material color as I here did, the text almost blend in with the color. If it is possible to use darker colors here, it should automaticly been changed to white font color when applying darker color...and vise versa...
And for the comments to me about the floating bar with black background and white icons beeing easier to see in sunlight... well I don't know what sun this person are checking with :-\ , but with the strong day/sun light we have here in north/south america there is no chances to see the white icons because they blend in with the light. You can't see the icons clear. The background yes...offcourse you see it good...but for me...and hopefully more than me...the idea was to see the icons clear, and with all sense and technology we can all say that in bright light BLACK ICONS shows best, nomatter if the users have a Nexus, Samsung or Huawei.
And just to come with a small additional remark;
I am sorry if I offended the "expert panel of users" as they was called here in the comments AGAINST me, but it was asked for a feedback, and as a educated Designer I did my duty and did so...... and I am just happy to see that many agree with me ;-)
Post by: StR on February 09, 2017, 04:11:55 am
I removed duplicate in other post. Was confused of two topics with same title......
This post is a duplicate of another one here on the forum to which I've replied in detail.
https://www.aqua-mail.com/forum/index.php?topic=5317.msg31881#msg31881
Now, here in this topic it belongs.....
Oh, man, I don't know what's happening on your end, but you have a major problem with duplicates...
And deleting the post from the thread where there is already a detailed response to it, ... ghm.. You need some sleep or some coffee... ;)
Post by: StR on February 09, 2017, 04:20:45 am
And just to come with a small additional remark;
I am sorry if I offended the "expert panel of users" as they was called here in the comments AGAINST me, but it was asked for a feedback, and as a educated Designer I did my duty and did so...... and I am just happy to see that many agree with me ;-)
I don't think anybody here has anything against you posting your opinion and suggestions. The reason people are asking you questions is because it is not completely clear what you actually meant. Screenshots often help in such cases.
Personally, the two problems I've noticed so far in the screenshots you've posted are that the 3rd line in the selected message has a low contrast with the background, and a similar problem with the black text on the dark background of the status of the message being sent.
Post by: julio66 on February 09, 2017, 06:54:59 am
I removed duplicate in other post. Was confused of two topics with same title......
This post is a duplicate of another one here on the forum to which I've replied in detail.
https://www.aqua-mail.com/forum/index.php?topic=5317.msg31881#msg31881
Now, here in this topic it belongs.....
Oh, man, I don't know what's happening on your end, but you have a major problem with duplicates...
And deleting the post from the thread where there is already a detailed response to it, ... ghm.. You need some sleep or some coffee... ;)
I already told you the reason for "my MAJOR problem with duplicates" (even if its first time ever) and that is when I wanted to post in FEEDBACK I didn't see there was two topics with the same name....I posted one....which was in a topic started by Parisgeek....when I opened the Feedback topic (the real one) from Kostya, I didn't see my post and thought something happened, so I posted it again.
Post by: julio66 on February 09, 2017, 07:02:49 am
And just to come with a small additional remark;
I am sorry if I offended the "expert panel of users" as they was called here in the comments AGAINST me, but it was asked for a feedback, and as a educated Designer I did my duty and did so...... and I am just happy to see that many agree with me ;-)
Personally, the two problems I've noticed so far in the screenshots you've posted are that the 3rd line in the selected message has a low contrast with the background, and a similar problem with the black text on the dark background of the status of the message being sent.
Sooooo good to see that you ALMOST understood me.....yes...the text is really getting dark and difficult to read if you go for using one of the standard Material color schemes, like here in my case BlueGray.....
When Aquamail has the options for selecting your own colors, there should been a function that changes the text to white on dark colors, and vise versa.....
If this is difficult, maybe an option for us to set the text color for headings/account titles.
If nothing of this is possible....then maybe the color options for us should be a bit more limited...like only being able to choose from a certain numbers colorchips...which is ONLY colors good with black font.
Then to the "almost" part.....
If you read all my text in my main post...you will understand that the second screenshot is about the FLOATING BAR...not the darkness of the selected text. I explained about the hardness to read the text on the main screen...accountlist.
Post by: StR on February 09, 2017, 07:52:47 am
Oh, man, I don't know what's happening on your end, but you have a major problem with duplicates...
I already told you the reason for "my MAJOR problem with duplicates" (even if its first time ever) and that is when I wanted to post in FEEDBACK I didn't see there was two topics with the same name....I posted one....which was in a topic started by Parisgeek....when I opened the Feedback topic (the real one) from Kostya, I didn't see my post and thought something happened, so I posted it again.
You don't seem to have noticed that you've quoted the same response of Paris Geek twice in the same message. I was referring to that, second duplication.
I am telling you, you need some sleep. ;)
If you read all my text in my main post...you will understand that the second screenshot is about the FLOATING BAR...not the darkness of the selected text. I explained about the hardness to read the text on the main screen...accountlist.
I was describing the problems that I noticed in that screenshot.
I might also need some sleep, but I am having problems seeing what you are trying to tell about the floating bar. As far as I understand your "main" post, you are not happy with the dark background of the floating bar. But in the 2nd screenshot, the floating bar is white, not dark, and I don't see any dark background.
I am just beginning to understand that you are probably showing how it looks (looked) before the latest change. But it is really hard to judge if something is bad if you don't see how it actually looks (just based on the description of changes).
But maybe I am just misunderstanding you, - then, hopefully, someone else here will understand your suggestion better.
Post by: Davey126 on February 12, 2017, 05:39:59 pm
I don't dislike the new icon (it's rather nice) but doesn't stand apart from other mail apps IMOHaving worked with the latest builds for a few days I have come to appreciate subtle distinctions in the new AM icon. It stands out from the others on my stock all white material design status bar (ie: black swish on new mail notifications) and looks rather nice doing so. The colored version is also growing on me. Seems my earlier judgements were a bit premature.
Classic case of grumpy old guy rejecting change just because it's different. :)
Post by: qwerty1q on February 13, 2017, 11:51:03 am
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Post by: qwerty1q on February 13, 2017, 03:30:42 pm
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170213/a42b86746f7cac44680165dc8fd3727f.jpg)I love Aquamail, the new design is great. All I wanted is (apart from the canned responses - but Kostya is probably working on it) to minimalize the areas in red circle in order to expose more email text on the screen. I think we waste a lot of space there, they don't have to be so high with a bar of space in top and bottom. I got a Mate 8 and don't really need so much space for the buttons. Also the arrangement of the area with From: and To: could be more squeezed. There's a lot of blank space there. Best.Adam (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170213/a47ae466c97627fb458652d422e7d92d.jpg)
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Where do you see too much blank space? See my screenshots. Thx
All in read wastes space in my opinion.
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Post by: kukrapok on February 13, 2017, 05:30:09 pm
Post by: vit5421 on February 14, 2017, 08:51:37 pm
Some people like the new design but some people don’t like it and prefer the old and clear blue design.
Is it possible to add new theme like "Aqua old Blue"s and try to keep the old design as much as possible?
Post by: ABOSWORTH on February 14, 2017, 10:04:07 pm
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on February 14, 2017, 10:57:08 pm
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Some people like the new design but some people don’t like it and prefer the old and clear blue design.
Is it possible to add new theme like "Aqua old Blue"s and try to keep the old design as much as possible?
There are no plans for this.
The new design is definitely "more modern" and this was one of the goals (and I personally don't like every single part of what's considered "modern" design either).
Please note that we've kept message list customization settings, so it is possible to e.g. change text color / read/unread background colors, app's main accent color, etc.
We could possibly fix a few more things (like we did between the first "design update" build and the 1.8 final), but it'd need to be focused and specific.
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on February 14, 2017, 11:20:58 pm
There were a few changes based on your suggestions --
- color chips made more "juicy"
- the context bar for message actions was made dark with white icons
- darker text color for "account / folder name hint" in smart folder
- darker text color for one of the other lines (I forget if it was subject / sender)
Now did the designers agree with every single item from your list? No they didn't, I think it's quite normal too.
But I believe that they (we) did address the bigger concerns, no?
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on February 14, 2017, 11:41:07 pm
Sorry I didn't catch that this was *the* major issue. Yes, true, this hasn't been changed yet, maybe it will be but I'm not sure.
Post by: mikeone on February 15, 2017, 12:41:44 am
Re: No. The major issue was that the date is now on the second title bar, not the first one (my suggestion #11). Any possibility to change that?Yes, I second this suggestion as "a" main issue
Sorry I didn't catch that this was *the* major issue. Yes, true, this hasn't been changed yet, maybe it will be but I'm not sure.
... especially since the position of date / time in the 3rd line isn't particularly useful - far away from the 'sticky' date header -.
There was an intensive discussion in this thread recently:
https://www.aqua-mail.com/forum/index.php?topic=5317.msg31694#msg31694
... and a bunch of posts afterwards (Paris Geek, nica, StR and me)
In this post I mentioned my - personally - priorities out of @Paris Geek's suggestions:
https://www.aqua-mail.com/forum/index.php?topic=5317.msg31655#msg31655
Follow-up of requests/suggestions (31-01-2017)I agree with @Paris Geek's priorities.
However, the most important things - at least for me -:Again, many thanks to @Paris Geek for his detailed suggestions!
- #11 - Date should be moved to the first line <> swaped with Message size
- #01 - Darker background for Floating context bar
- #17 - Reduce the white space in attachment area in message view
- #02 - Keep/reset the option for brighter colors for chips in message list
- #05 - Use same color for top bar and FAB by default
- #18 - Use aquamarine instead of blue color for internet/phone links
Post by: StR on February 15, 2017, 01:58:25 am
Post by: mikeone on February 15, 2017, 08:47:26 am
https://www.aqua-mail.com/forum/index.php?topic=5317.msg31341#msg31341
Post by: Bodo on February 15, 2017, 05:02:54 pm
I like the dark design and the new look also very much, but
is it possible to change the color for %Email@adresses.com% to the old blue again with an option or so?
Like it was with the old look in the dark design or is with the new look and light design.
Thank you very much
Bodo
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on February 15, 2017, 08:40:53 pm
Can you please clarify -- this is in message view (not message list view)? In the header? The email addresses specifically (not "human names")?
I this it was't intentional, an oversight. I'll take a look.
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on February 15, 2017, 08:42:41 pm
A bunch of these are already done, and made it into the release (even the "contact chip colors" - we ended up with something between the old colors with and without "muted" option).
I'm going to ask the designer about the "date" placement when "stars" are off.
Don't think there is any intent to change the FAB color, but just selecting a custom "accent color" would make the FAB a darker shade of that one.
Post by: Davey126 on February 15, 2017, 10:48:14 pm
I'm going to ask the designer about the "date" placement when "stars" are off.I am probably misinterpreting this response but wanted to add my own thoughts just in case. Believe the request is to swap message date with message size (date on top, size on bottom) in the message list regardless of whether stars are enabled or disabled. Sorry if this clarification was unnecessary or my input is off-topic.
Post by: mikeone on February 15, 2017, 11:08:15 pm
Yes, the suggestion is to place the date/time on top (on the first Title line, above the star) and the message size - when this option is enabled - in the 2. line (or even below the star if stars are enabled).I'm going to ask the designer about the "date" placement when "stars" are off.I am probably misinterpreting this response but wanted to add my own thoughts just in case. Believe the request is to swap message date with message size (date on top, size on bottom) in the message list regardless of whether stars are enabled or disabled. Sorry if this clarification was unnecessary or my input is off-topic.
Post by: jcasares on February 16, 2017, 12:05:14 am
Post by: Davey126 on February 16, 2017, 01:42:37 am
I'm going to ask the designer about the "date" placement when "stars" are off.I am probably misinterpreting this response but wanted to add my own thoughts just in case. Believe the request is to swap message date with message size (date on top, size on bottom) in the message list regardless of whether stars are enabled or disabled. Sorry if this clarification was unnecessary or my input is off-topic.
No, this is not exactly the original request. Message size is optional, let's not interfere with it - request #11 is to put the date on the first Title line, and exactly as Kostya pointed out if this not always possible, at least make it possible when stars are not displayed.
In my view date should be anchored to the first/top line regardless of other optional items like stars and message size; it should never be demoted.
Post by: lexluthor on February 16, 2017, 01:19:30 pm
Is there a way to remove the check boxes in the smart folder and message list view? I'm not sure why I need them taking up space if I can still multi select by clicking on the messages.
Post by: Bodo on February 17, 2017, 01:28:29 pm
Re: is it possible to change the color for %Email@adresses.com% to the old blue again with an option or so?
Can you please clarify -- this is in message view (not message list view)? In the header? The email addresses specifically (not "human names")?
Hi Kosta,
I'm talking about the email-adresses in the message view when I use the drop-down to see the other recipients and my own email-adress.
With the old blue color the email-adresses has more contrast in the dark design.
But if it's too complicate then let it as it is.
The rest of the new design is really great.
Thank you for you efforts
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on February 17, 2017, 10:54:30 pm
Please re-enable app settings -> message list -> group by date, and your older messages will have "times" (since the "dates" will be provided by the grouping bars).
Re: Is there a way to remove the check boxes in the smart folder and message list view? I'm not sure why I need them taking up space if I can still multi select by clicking on the messages.
https://www.aqua-mail.com/forum/index.php?topic=5397.0
Post by: Butch on February 18, 2017, 07:16:58 pm
Thx, Butch
Post by: Butch on February 18, 2017, 08:22:56 pm
Long time customer with many converts sent to AquaMail.
Thanks.
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on February 19, 2017, 03:22:46 pm
Please contact support / aqua-mail / dot com, they'll try to help you.
Post by: Butch on February 19, 2017, 04:00:03 pm
Post by: Butch on February 20, 2017, 02:57:54 pm
Post by: thermoman on February 22, 2017, 03:33:13 pm
- The font size of the date group row is to small and can't be changed seperately in settings. I want the font size of the date row to be bigger, but no change to the other font sizes in the mail list.
- Moving an email to another folder or moving it into the junk folder now takes one extra click. This is really annoying and should be an option. The Action bar at the bottom should be optional to allow more quick actions instead of having to open the menu first.
Post by: thermoman on February 22, 2017, 04:02:07 pm
Still the font size of the date grouping line that should be customizable.
Besides that with a bit changing settings here and there (e.g. colors) it's almost the same theme than the old one :)
Post by: thermoman on February 22, 2017, 04:11:56 pm
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Use swiping command for "move to Spam"Yes, used that as a workaround for now, thanks!
Post by: StR on February 26, 2017, 04:16:04 pm
:( :o
Post by: someone on February 26, 2017, 07:36:36 pm
Please post your feedback on the 1.8 design refresh here. I will pass it on to the Design Team.Ah for the great days when Kostya was the "design team".
Для обратной связи по обновлению дизайна в 1.8. Я передам в Отдел Дизайна.
Post by: bertrand731 on April 03, 2017, 11:33:17 am
Post by: nica on April 03, 2017, 10:03:34 pm
Did you switch to the new icon in Tapatalk?
I still see the old one (after clearing Tapatalk's cache).
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on April 04, 2017, 08:07:58 pm
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@Kostya
Did you switch to the new icon in Tapatalk?
I did just now. Thanks for the pointer (I'd completely forgotten).
Post by: nica on April 04, 2017, 08:58:25 pm
Post by: nica on April 04, 2017, 09:47:00 pm
Icon in Tapatalk has visible black background. Shouldn't be transparent?
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on April 04, 2017, 10:34:53 pm
Icon in Tapatalk has visible black background. Shouldn't be transparent?
It is transparent in the PNG file I've uploaded but (just tried it again) "save" ing the change in Tapatalk "admin panel" changes it to black.
I'll try again.
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on April 04, 2017, 10:38:03 pm
"RGB color space without alpha channel"
Think they supported transparency before... Added a white layer, please check now.
Post by: nica on April 04, 2017, 11:33:48 pm
But I realized that all icons of forums don't show transparent background color. Tapatalk's own forum icon shows background in exact same color as the background in the screen..
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on April 05, 2017, 07:38:03 pm
Please see attachment. I was seeing black here before, around the edges.
Post by: nica on April 05, 2017, 10:31:50 pm
Post by: bertrand731 on April 20, 2017, 09:53:19 am