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English - Android => How do I... => Topic started by: shopboy on November 27, 2012, 09:41:41 pm
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Hello there,
First, very nice app you have built, love it and bought the app after a few minutes of utilisation!
BUT, I found a major draw back: there is NO Microsoft Exchange option available (POP3 & IMAP only).
Is that hard to create this option as well in order to have the full range of installation modes? If it is not, is that possible for you to publish an upgraded version?
If you don't, I'm afraid I will have to go to an other app which will not be as brilliant as yours, but will include Microsoft Exchange installation set-up...
Anyway thank you for time and efforts!
Best regards.
Shopboy.
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Exchange support (via the EWS mail protocol) was added in version 1.3.8, released January 3, 2014
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Hi,
Sorry, no Exchange at this time. It's not particularly hard, but I have just been busy with all the other things, and also MS requires a license to use ActiveSync (which I don't have and need to try and get).
I'll be looking into it soon, but in the meanwhile, if you'd like to get a refund, please send me your Google order number (kmansoft / at sign / gmail / dot com).
Thanks.
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Hey,
Don't worry, I will not ask for a refund! I will definitly keep this app in a corner of my S3 memory and will use it when this MS thing is cleared...
But you know, a lot of us are using MS Exchange for our daily mailbox update especially in the professional world. If you manage to get your hand on this MS license, a lot of companies could adopt your app as you have one of the best on the market!
Keep up the good work and ty for your quick answer!
Shopboy.
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I totally agree, adding exchange would rock! Luckily my company gives me IMAP support as well so I can read my company mails as well. BTW, I just switched from Tocuhdown because it can't handel my private web accounts! This application is almost complete, just the exchange missing (and calendar/contact handling).. Keep up the good work :)
Regards,
Paul
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another vote for exchange activesync here.
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registered just to add another vote for Exchange.
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+1 for Exchange support
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Thank you everyone. I do realize it would be a great addition. Will see how it works out.
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I also registered just to add another vote for exchange/activesync support. For me, it is a deal breaker. The application is super nice, a great potential, but since my workplace is on Exchange, this is mandatory for me. So as soone as it is implemented, I will buy the full version in a heart beat!
Best regards
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And another vote. Just started with new company, spent hours trying to configure aqua mail for exchange and only then realised the exchange server didn't offer What we required. I would not have bought the full version if I knew that was the case.
The app is brilliant but is missing a critical feature. I appreciate their may be a cost involved in gaining permission to use active sync but surely this would be recovered with people having a viable alternative to notrodesks solutions?
Are you able to share when this may happen as I'm unable to use the paid app now. Many thanks and I hope you're feeling better.
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+1 vote for exchange support.
Just bought the pro app and not having access to my office's exchange server is a major drawback.
Just my .02
Feel better (Get some chicken soup in ya). ;D
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+1 for Exchange. Essential these days.. :) kindly make it happen as soon as possibe. Except that, The app rocks.. :D
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+100
Already bought an app! Please add MS Exchange support!!!!! Please :)
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i also really NEED exchange! the app description said, that this is supported.
please update.
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Yes, I have just purchased AquaMail pro but urgently need to be able to use an Exchange account. Even the ordinary mail programmes supplied with Android devices generally have this facility. Is there any clue when this may be provided?
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Hi, nothing heard about this support yet. Can we please have an update. I appreciate you're busy but there are clearly a number of people including myself, who bought this app not appreciating Active Sync was not supported there by rendering this app obsolete.
I'd appreciate some news from you on this soon.
Thanks Jake
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@Jakes26
1 - Can't agree with the "rendering this app obsolete" part. There is a large number of people who've never used Exchange in their life -- and I'm not trying to get into a religious argument (as things related to MS often turn out), it's just a fact of life.
2 - I don't recall ever claiming, anywhere, that the app supports ActiveSync. That would be disseminating misinformation, not something I enjoy doing.
3 - I know that better Exchange support is important, and do want to add it, but it has not been an easy road with this app. Would have liked to have it in the app already, and a bunch of other things, but....
4 - If you would like to get a refund because you really need ActiveSync / Exchange now, please contact me by email.
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Just my 2c...
I'm not so sure ActiveSync support within AquaMail is such a good idea, given Kostya's limited resources (1 man*, 1 bedroom).
Whilst it's true Outlook.com doesn't yet support IMAP, there are many rumblings that it will. GMail is cutting back on it's ActiveSync usage and most other email providers give both IMAP and POP3 access.
So, that really just leaves corporate providers: When you're in that situation then you're quite probably looking at more than just email - for example calendering is also important (accept meetings etc). Not so sure if AquaMail should dedicate resources to support calendering.
Also, many more corporate environments are beginning to tighten up the requirements for what devices can connect to their Exchange Servers - forcing device encryption for one is becoming higher up the list, as is the ability to remote wipe the device (or at least the mail store). Again not so sure if delving into this level of functionality is perhaps the best use of Kostya's time.
Granted yes there are still many exchange servers that don't force that (for now), but the question I'd ask is how many users out there really want this functionality, as opposed more basic generic functionality that would help out more everyday users? I know that there have been a vocal number of people here on the forums that have +1'd the requirement, but how many AquaMail users really need this when they can be better served I feel with other solutions (e.g. Touchdown - admittedly expensive, but possibly the best Exchange client available for the 'droid [I've not tried Emoze])?
Personally I'd like to see Kostya concentrate his resources on making AquaMail the best darned generic Android email application out there. There are many competitors out there (K9, Kaiten, MailDroid, Enhanced Email) but for me personally AquaMail is already set to outpace them all just concentrating what it's good at.
Like I say, my 2c worth is all.
* I'm assuming from my day's of reading Tolstoy that you were male - please forgive me if I'm wrong! :)
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Hi Kostya Vasilyev,
I just purchased the PRO version of Aquamail for my Android HTC One X phone, but I also did not read the description closely, that Activesync for Microsoft Exchange is not supported... (my mistake, as I always ask people to RTFM ;-)) ... anyway I don't want my money back, as your app is excellent and properly the best on the market, so I would like to support you.
I only want to ask you kindly if you have a new status update regarding the development of the Exchange support, as your last update in this thread was on the 06-03-2013 - so I just wonder if anything new has happend the last 7 months please?
By the way, I see that this forum thread has been viewed nearly 4,400 times, so I guess there is a huge wish for this request for enhancement / development.
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06-03-2013 by admin Kostya Vasilyev:
3 - I know that better Exchange support is important, and do want to add it, but it has not been an easy road with this app. Would have liked to have it in the app already, and a bunch of other things, but....
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Many thanks in advance.
Kind regards,
Mr. Tee :)
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Hello,
I've been finally (!!!) able to work on Exchange since 1.2.5.5 or thereabouts.
Please see this:
http://www.aqua-mail.com/forum/index.php?topic=1618.0
Since then I implemented more stuff, today it was the sync of read and flagged message state changes back to the server. Will work on moving messages between folders tomorrow.
So things are progressing.
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Hello thread, another one here registered (mostly) because of the Exchange support. I had no idea Exchange/ActiveSync was not supported as it is supported even in the default Android mail app and this one is so much "better" in every aspect... When I reaoized it can NOT replace the default client in its current state, because I can't use my most important mail account (work), first I wanted a refund, then I Googled and here I am to add my +1. So I'm really glad to read Kostya's latest post. Waiting (im)patiently. Thanks!
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Working on drafts / sending which is the last large piece of work.
Отправлено с моего GT-N7100 при помощи Tapatalk
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Just registered to give another +1 for Exchange Active sync - This email app will be number one once you implement the Exchange Active Sync function, currently at this time no other email apps even come close to what your app delivers and because your app hits all points I believe once you add this feature your application will skyrocket. The look and feel along with the widget features are just perfect.
I purchased the Full app and Its soooo great however, being a manager in the IT department active Sync is a must.
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er, you do realize that EWS has been available in AquaMail for the last 2 odd months and that folk here have reported great success in contacting all manner of Exchange servers using it...? :o
There'll be no ActiveSync though since the costs and time were prohibitive.
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Thank you Rachel, once again :)
I chose to go with EWS, not ActiveSync because:
- EWS is a native Exchange protocol, and as far as I can tell, it's on par with, or close to, ActiveSync in terms of Exchange specific features (for example, and not limited to, searching the Global Address List, and replying to meeting invites).
- ActiveSync requires a license from MS. Signing a contract would not be difficult, but the logistics of complying with its terms would be. I'm not at liberty to elaborate, but let's just say that it just won't be practical.
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I was using Enhanced Email, but it has had issues with various releases of Android. The problem for corporate users on android is the lack of a really good android Exchange email/calendar integration. I think adding Active Sync and calendar integration would make this the must have Android email app. I would have not problem paying $9.99 or maybe even $19.99 for an app that did all that in Aqua Mail.
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Oh my.
The more I write everywhere I can that ActiveSync requires complying with a complicated licensing scheme, that I deliberately chose EWS, that EWS is a native Exchange protocol, that it's been available since Exchange 2007 SP1 (more than six!!! years ago), that it's enabled by default unless the server admin is a paranoid freak --
-- the more requests I get specifically about ActiveSync.
Going to check the mirror -- maybe there is an ActiveSync tattoo on my forehead?
It's EWS now and EWS it's gong to be, unless this app gets purchased by a "real corporation" (and the probability of that is 0,0000000).
Now, full two-way calendar sync -- on my list, not in 1.5, planned for 1.6, along with maybe push mail for EWS, if it works out.
As it stands now Aqua already lets you access server side contacts, including the Global Address List (GAL) with search -- btw, this is something CloudMagic doesn't do -- and lets you accept invites and they'll get synced to the server, become available in web mail / Outlook, etc.
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I just learned about Remote Wipe today. I connected to an Exchange server using Aquamail. Have I exposed my phone to Remote Wipe?
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Nope.
Since I didn't have any reason to get Aqua approved by Microsoft as "Designed for Microsoft Exchange" -- there is no remote wipe feature in Exchange accounts (or non-Exchange accounts, for that matter).
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Thanks Kostya. Learning about this has given me an opportunity to renegotiate my contract!
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Great!
In description writes ms active sync supported
But not does? ??
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Great!
In description writes ms active sync supported
But not does? ??
I could not see anything about "ms active sync supported by AquaMail " in the description:
www.aqua-mail.com/?page_id=22
... where did you found this?
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This is what it says on the web site:
Works with many other email services via standard Internet email protocols (IMAP, POP3, SMTP) as well as Microsoft’s EWS (Exchange Web Services) protocol.
Microsoft Exchange is supported via IMAP or EWS. EWS includes access to server side contacts (personal and global, with lookup), and accepting meetings that can later be viewed in Outlook and other apps.
The description in Google Play is largely the same info, edited down to keep short.
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I also registered to vote for exchange support. I need an instant push email for my exchange email. Do your best guys and support it.
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As soon as I'm done with this version -- I'll *finally* be able to do more Exchange work.
PS - thanks for the plural (in "you guys").
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Great app with a great UI -- with the exception of one significant problem related to accessing my exchange account.
When I use the native android email app, I receive emails almost instantly. But with aquamail it can take anywhere from 2 to 15 minutes, as if it polls for new mail. Because aquamail uses EWS instead of Activesync, does that mean that there is no instant or push notification? Or does it mean the server my email is on doesn't support push without Activesync? Is there any way that I can get instant access to my mail using EWS?
This is really frustrating because your app is the best android email client in every other way. Thanks for your work.
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It has nothing to do with ActiveSync vs. EWS.
It has everything to do with my not having implemented push for Exchange, back when I was adding Exchange support (about a year ago).
Something I'm going to look into, as well as two-way calendar sync, for version 1.6.
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I have been using this for quite some time now and it's really disappointing to say that Inow have to stop using the app simply because it doesn't support Active Sync. other than that it is a great app.
I also referred this to many other people within my circle and they all bought the app.... just to realize that the app doesn't support ActiveSync and so now we are moving to different app.
I am no expert but for sure implementing ActiveSync wouldn't be that difficult to achieve. Anyhow, I will be more than happy to come to this app once ActiveSync is implemented.
Thanks
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>> implementing ActiveSync wouldn't be that difficult to achieve
The issue, as I already explained numerous times, is having to get a license to use ActiveSync from MS:
1 - the complicated logistics
2 - costs
Look at Boxer. Got a great start, marketing, promotion, and now seems to be going nowhere. Lots of complaints in Google Play about its price -- and a then separate purchase to use Exchange.
They went with ActiveSync, and have to cover their licensing costs. But it does't do anything to change how users see it ("I have to pay *twice*?").
>> doesn't support Active Sync
ActiveSync is just a network protocol.
Can you explain why the network protocol is so important to you?
Maybe rather than a network protocol, you have specific Exchange oriented features in mind?
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Now that the calendar sync has been implemented, would it be feasible to implement address book sync? You can browse the Exchange contact list via AquaMail, but there doesn't seem to be an option to sync it with the system contacts. It would be nice if it was possible to, for example, place a call to a telephone number saved in Exchange address book.
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I should also mention that the currently posted 1.5.7-xx-dev versions (approaching release) --
- Don't have Contact sync (with system Contacts)
- But do have "autocomplete as you type" for your Exchange server side address book and the GAL (Global Address List, corporate directory)
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I also would really appreciate ActiveSync support in AquaMail. That would be just awesome.
What you specially mean with "licensing costs"? ActiveSync itself does not require any fees to implement it somewhere. Or do you mean the Exchange server itself?
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>> ActiveSync itself does not require any fees to implement it somewhere
This isn't true.
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Recently I heard from a friend, that he thinks that you just need an "Okay" by Microsoft for using the open protocol, but this does not really cost something.
I also can find an implementation code by Microsoft with same sample code:
https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/office/hh531590%28v=exchg.140%29.aspx
May I ask where you read/heard, that the implementation does cost something? Maybe they already changed it, because Microsoft seems to go more and more recently in the open-source direction, so I could really imagine, that it is at least free now. I have to say, that I'm not that good informed about the ActiveSync topic, but if you want I could do some research.
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Microsoft licenses (i.e. charges for) ActiveSync to companies that choose to implement the protocol into their software. This means that the company/app developer is charged every time you add your Exchange account to the app on any of your devices.
For more information you can visit this page:
https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/office/dn144954(v=exchg.140).aspx#sectionSection6
Officially licensed clients can be found here:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/legal/intellectualproperty/mtl/technologylicensing.aspx?4204ca98-018c-4a23-a11b-0e7404e832dd=True
Out of this list some companies who are developing Android mail clients with ActiveSync support:
Company App
9Folders Inc. Nine
iKonic Apps LLC. Mail+
Taskbox Inc. Boxer
However, I'm missing CloudMagic Inc. and Syntomo Ltd. (MailWise) in that list...