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Title: Automatic downloading of large attachments
Post by: Oswald-Kolle on May 20, 2015, 11:03:53 am
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You can set the size of loading messages in AquaMail settings / Network / WiFi  settings + Mobile data settings.
I found the way to increase the limit of (pre) downloading attachements... But I am missing the "unlimited size" option!
Would it be possible to add this in the next version?
Title: Re: Automatic downloading of large attachments
Post by: mikeone on May 20, 2015, 11:19:51 am
Please install the latest AquaMail version 1.5.7.1 from Play Store or directly from the download section here :
http://www.aqua-mail.com/download/AquaMail-market-1.5.7.1.apk

Go to AquaMail settings > Network:
Now you can change the settings for both (Wifi + Mobile data)  to "no limit".
> see screenshots
Title: Re: Automatic downloading of large attachments
Post by: Oswald-Kolle on May 20, 2015, 12:05:01 pm
Okay - I installed AquaMail from the google PlayStore - there the current version is 1.5.5.34

I'll try to install it through the website...
Title: Re: Automatic downloading of large attachments
Post by: Oswald-Kolle on May 20, 2015, 12:12:23 pm
Well... I can change the limits to "no limit" there.
BUT: Under the Folders->preload->Attachments WIFI/Mobile I still have the 30MB limit!
Title: Re: Automatic downloading of large attachments
Post by: mikeone on May 20, 2015, 12:28:44 pm
Well... I can change the limits to "no limit" there.
BUT: Under the Folders->preload->Attachments WIFI/Mobile I still have the 30MB limit!

Yes, that's correct.. and the option has been implemented as intended.
However, this "limitation" is only for preloading to prevent exorbitant data usage without any additional action from the user.
Title: Re: Automatic downloading of large attachments
Post by: Oswald-Kolle on May 20, 2015, 01:48:53 pm
This would be a nice option, but I do not need this - so, why don't offer the possibility to disable it?
Is there a chance to get a "no limit" option there?
Title: Re: Automatic downloading of large attachments
Post by: pyler on May 20, 2015, 04:40:40 pm
So no limit is actually 30MB ;D Give that man a chance.

I think that a small option to enable (disable?) it won't hurt anybody :D
Title: Re: Automatic downloading of large attachments
Post by: mikeone on May 20, 2015, 05:45:41 pm
So no limit is actually 30MB ;D Give that man a chance.

I think that a small option to enable (disable?) it won't hurt anybody :D

... until the first user who set "No limit" will get an email with a huge video file as attachment which waste his whole free mobile data quota...
Title: Re: Automatic downloading of large attachments
Post by: Oswald-Kolle on May 20, 2015, 07:31:00 pm
Actually yes, I get huge emails - mostly on Saturdays : then the newspaper is often that large.
And - honestly - if 30MB is okay, then more makes not that big difference...
Title: Re: Automatic downloading of large attachments
Post by: Oswald-Kolle on May 21, 2015, 09:06:56 am
Are you going to add the "no limit" option?
It is really annoying to leave home and realize that the attachments did not load during the night - so I have to download it manual without WiFi... Had that problem today...
Title: Re: Automatic downloading of large attachments
Post by: mikeone on May 21, 2015, 11:04:24 am
Are you going to add the "no limit" option?
It is really annoying to leave home and realize that the attachments did not load during the night - so I have to download it manual without WiFi... Had that problem today...

@Kostya,
Maybe an additional "No limit" option only for the WiFi settings could be useful:
> Account settings > Options and folders > Preload > Attachments, WiFi

What are your thoughts on this?

Mikeone
Title: Re: Automatic downloading of large attachments
Post by: Oswald-Kolle on May 21, 2015, 12:15:38 pm
That would be okay...
But: Why don't you want to let the user decide what he wants? Just add the possibility to choose...
Title: Re: Automatic downloading of large attachments
Post by: pyler on May 21, 2015, 01:24:23 pm
Kostya will make everybody happy.
Title: Re: Automatic downloading of large attachments
Post by: Oswald-Kolle on May 21, 2015, 09:32:00 pm
That sounds great! Then I'll wait for the update...  :)
Title: Re: Automatic downloading of large attachments
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on May 22, 2015, 12:17:53 am
The majority of mail servers have message size limits -- and 30 megabytes comes up quite often.

>> Actually yes, I get huge emails - mostly on Saturdays : then the newspaper is often that large

Someone sends you newspaper *as attachments* ??? (pdf I presume ???)

And just how large are those?

Title: Re: Automatic downloading of large attachments
Post by: Oswald-Kolle on May 22, 2015, 09:30:32 am
I am sending the newspaper myself. I have a script running on my server which downloads the newspaper and sends it to my email account (it's my own mailserver - so I was able to increase the attachment size)
This way, I have the newspaper on the smartphone when I am leaving home - without initiating the download by hand...

The newspaper is mostly about 15MB - and up to 75MB - but it's not that huge very often.
Today it was about 28MB - but the 30MB limit was already too small...
I hope to get the "no limit" option within a narrow time frame?


EDIT: You said that most email servers do have the limit at 30MB max - then for most users the "no limit" option wouldn't change anything...  :)
Title: Re: Automatic downloading of large attachments
Post by: mikeone on May 22, 2015, 06:15:04 pm
I am sending the newspaper myself. I have a script running on my server which downloads the newspaper and sends it to my email account (it's my own mailserver - so I was able to increase the attachment size)
This way, I have the newspaper on the smartphone when I am leaving home - without initiating the download by hand...

The newspaper is mostly about 15MB - and up to 75MB - but it's not that huge very often.
Today it was about 28MB - but the 30MB limit was already too small...
I hope to get the "no limit" option within a narrow time frame?


EDIT: You said that most email servers do have the limit at 30MB max - then for most users the "no limit" option wouldn't change anything...  :)

I just found this information from the German e-mail provider "1&1" :

"The maximum attachment size for all 1&1 basic e-mail accounts is limited to ~75MB. Because of base64 encoding (used when sending attachments), the maximum attachment size may be less depending on the type of file(s). This is a result of the base64 encoding which commonly increases file size slightly. This limit remains the same whether you are using the 1&1 Webmail interface or sending mail through an e-mail program."

Therefore it could be a solution to increase the limits for preloading attachments as follows :

WiFi
...
    5 MB
  10 MB
  25 MB
  50 MB
100 MB
No limit

Mobile 3G+ / 2G
..
    5 MB
  10 MB
  25 MB
  50 MB
100 MB
[No limit)?]  < I'm not really sure whether this option will be useful

However, the decision is up to Kostya.

Kind regards
Mikeone
Title: Re: Automatic downloading of large attachments
Post by: Oswald-Kolle on May 22, 2015, 08:33:19 pm
That sounds great!
Useful or not - just add it and let the user decide if it is needed or not. When you have LTE and unlimited data volume - why not download everything automatically?  :D
Title: Re: Automatic downloading of large attachments
Post by: mikeone on May 22, 2015, 09:39:48 pm
That sounds great!
Useful or not - just add it and let the user decide if it is needed or not. When you have LTE and unlimited data volume - why not download everything automatically?  :D

As mentioned before:
...the decision must be taken by Kostya - as the sole developer of AquaMail.
Title: Re: Automatic downloading of large attachments
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on May 24, 2015, 10:14:14 pm
There are no defaults for attachments -- because worldwide, many people still have metered connectivity.

I just added more preset values as well as "no limit".
Title: Re: Automatic downloading of large attachments
Post by: mikeone on May 25, 2015, 10:31:38 am
There are no defaults for attachments -- because worldwide, many people still have metered connectivity.

I just added more preset values as well as "no limit".

Thanks Kostya!
http://www.aqua-mail.com/forum/index.php?topic=3589.msg17823#msg17823

http://www.aqua-mail.com/download/AquaMail-market-1.5.7.4.apk
...
+ Added more "preload attachments" sizes, including "no limit".
Title: Re: Automatic downloading of large attachments
Post by: Oswald-Kolle on May 25, 2015, 12:16:54 pm
Thanks a lot!

I don't think that I currently need it, but maybe the same choices should be available for preloading images?
Title: Re: Automatic downloading of large attachments
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on May 25, 2015, 01:47:01 pm
More than a megabyte of embedded  (as opposed to linked) images is an abomination :)

But if someone needs it in the future, sure.