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Title: 1.2.5.1
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on September 10, 2013, 03:12:11 am
http://www.aqua-mail.com/download/AquaMail-market-1.2.5.1.apk

+ Fixed some (maybe not all yet) time zone issues in iCal parsing.

+ Updated Polish translation (thanks, @Maciej!).

+ Per account color setting for account list (long press an account).
Title: Re: 1.2.5.1
Post by: Framon on September 10, 2013, 08:46:45 am
You are really the best ! Thanks.
Title: Re: 1.2.5.1
Post by: Framon on September 10, 2013, 09:52:35 am
I forgot to tell you that you could translate "Assign color"(account color setting) in French by "Attribuer une couleur".
Title: Re: 1.2.5.1
Post by: srt10coupe on September 10, 2013, 10:27:44 am
Thanks, but I wish me the color background for the folder in Accountlist.
Title: Re: 1.2.5.1
Post by: andrewilley on September 10, 2013, 01:46:03 pm
Many thanks for the update.

I have just tried the new 'per account' colour chooser, but it only seems to change the background of the title tab in the Accounts List, not the background of the actual items in the Messages List and/or the Inbox/Sent messages lists.

I would find that colour option extremely useful if it changed the background colour in the Messages List (and in the Widget view too) as that would be much more effective and useful than the little colour indicators in the corners of messages - and it would take up less screen space too. Could you maybe add a simple tickbox in the new Assign Colour screen to make that colour apply to Message List item backgrounds too? Thanks!

Andre
Title: Re: 1.2.5.1
Post by: srt10coupe on September 10, 2013, 04:23:33 pm
Yes, Colour for Account list (for the Folder) and for Message list.

change the colour indicators too Assign Colour ;-).

and the Accounts in Account list with corner color indicators.


because this does not look so good...
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/09/10/mazetepa.jpg)
Title: Re: 1.2.5.1
Post by: someone on September 10, 2013, 08:07:38 pm
Many thanks for the update.

I have just tried the new 'per account' colour chooser, but it only seems to change the background of the title tab in the Accounts List, not the background of the actual items in the Messages List and/or the Inbox/Sent messages lists.

I would find that colour option extremely useful if it changed the background colour in the Messages List (and in the Widget view too) as that would be much more effective and useful than the little colour indicators in the corners of messages - and it would take up less screen space too. Could you maybe add a simple tickbox in the new Assign Colour screen to make that colour apply to Message List item backgrounds too? Thanks!

Andre
Agree. Not so useful if it just colors the account title.

Not really that important to me, but the way it now is, I would ignore it as useless.
Title: Re: 1.2.5.1
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on September 10, 2013, 08:12:31 pm
Only account colors had been requested before, so that's what I did.

@srt -- have you tried picking different colors? And using less saturation (you can do it in the color wheel, middle tab in the color picker).
Title: Re: 1.2.5.1
Post by: srt10coupe on September 10, 2013, 08:50:58 pm
@Kostya
yes I've tested but I think 'corner color indicators' are better for the Accounts in Accounts list.

I sat down again today to Photoshop and designing how it might look, okay.
Title: Re: 1.2.5.1
Post by: someone on September 10, 2013, 09:10:54 pm
@Kostya
yes I've tested but I think 'corner color indicators' are better for the Accounts in Accounts list.

I sat down again today to Photoshop and designing how it might look, okay.
Agree
Title: Re: 1.2.5.1
Post by: srt10coupe on September 11, 2013, 01:42:22 am
I would imagine it this way, I look forward to suggestions.
Title: Re: 1.2.5.1
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on September 11, 2013, 01:49:33 am
Um, that whole thing is blue!
Title: Re: 1.2.5.1
Post by: srt10coupe on September 11, 2013, 02:15:45 am
is to represent and partly optional.

(please open the picture from desktop browser, sorry to big)
Title: Re: 1.2.5.1
Post by: Framon on September 11, 2013, 09:19:25 am
It is not easy to please everyone   ;)
Personally, I like the current presentation, but the suggestion of ​​coloring the header with the same account color is not bad...
Title: Re: 1.2.5.1
Post by: srt10coupe on September 11, 2013, 09:40:32 am
It is not easy to please everyone   ;)
Personally, I like the current presentation, but the suggestion of ​​coloring the header with the same account color is not bad...

Forget 'Mail view' suggestion (it's to much), coloring the header with the same account color is better.

'Account view' I support still.
Title: Re: 1.2.5.1
Post by: Framon on September 11, 2013, 10:44:53 am
André and I are of the same opinion. The ball is now in the Kostya's court...  :D

Title: Re: 1.2.5.1
Post by: beaky on September 11, 2013, 05:54:02 pm
I think the corner colours were fine. In the first version of the app I used, only about 4 colours were available. Making more available would be good, but I think colouring the messages or even the account titles has mixed advantages and disadvantages.
Corner colour:
can colour account names, folders and message headers with even strong colours, with no readability problems - plus point.
Needs at least some space. Minus point on tiny screens. Only a 'tiny' minus.
If too small, can be hard to distinguish colour on small screen. Change your spectacles!
Subtle shade differences less visible. ???? Neutral - choose different colours.

Background colour:
Dark colours make readability difficult in some cases. Even swapping foreground to white is problematic for some colours. Minus point.
Account names or folders in background, message headers by corner colour. Still has readability problem, but does not extend to message header or beyond. Plus/minus.
Ugly. Minus point. (For a good appearance, use colour and fonts sparingly).

Giving the choice (corner or background or both). Complexity - minus point. I like it that AM seems reliable on my tablet and prefer it to stay that way.

Wider palette than on earlier versions. Plus point.

Creeping features - where is this going - do we have coloured contacts too for business/pleasure? Minus point. A stable product that does first what is 'needed' gets my vote.
I don't have colours on my Thunderbird installation on PC, and don't miss them there.
Title: Re: 1.2.5.1
Post by: srt10coupe on September 11, 2013, 08:17:03 pm
@beaky

but a subtle color coding is worthwhile. the sample color in the screenshots is just one example. that's what the Color Picker. Header background and Account list - Folder view, used or did not use it for small screens the Color Picker.

and for the serious businessman can choose the Color Picker also gray.
Title: Re: 1.2.5.1
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on September 11, 2013, 09:43:14 pm
I've got a task somewhere in my to-do to provide more colors for folders (not an entirely simple task, actually -- right now most colors are picked automatically based on folder database IDs, and just adding more will shift the automatically picked colors for everyone).

I believe the current account coloring approach makes accounts stand out, which is double plus good in itself. A setting to apply the picked account color to all its folders is also on my to-do (it would use the "corner" indicator, just like now).

The color picker lets you pick one of the "popular" colors and and then adjust its color intensity in the color wheel.

PS: @Andre - wouldn't "the"serious businessman" pick "the color which represents the spirit of innovation", what would that be, electric blue? :)
Title: Re: 1.2.5.1
Post by: srt10coupe on September 11, 2013, 10:44:21 pm
@Kostya

the man of the world. ;-) (joke)
Is the account list proposal worth considering for you?
Title: Re: 1.2.5.1
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on September 11, 2013, 11:11:38 pm
@Andre -- I've looked at your proposal...

I guess you'd like to switch the color accent indicators between account items and folder items (entire background vs. corner indicator).

Not sure I like it so far. I believe accounts should visually stand out more than folders, if at all.

I'm also not sure users will appreciate per-folder color indicators being -- radically -- different. People get used to how things are.

Hey, can I attach a screenshot too? Never thought I'd like account colors, but I do (enough for one of my devices).
Title: Re: 1.2.5.1
Post by: srt10coupe on September 11, 2013, 11:20:06 pm
ok, was just an idea.
Title: Re: 1.2.5.1
Post by: Framon on September 12, 2013, 11:23:11 am
I think the current situation of different colors (accounts and folders) seems very good. Aquamail should not look like a Christmas tree ...  ::)
Title: Re: 1.2.5.1
Post by: andrewilley on September 13, 2013, 12:59:09 am
I'm getting confused, too many Andrés! :)

To be honest, I personally see no real advantage to colouring the Account Lists at all - unless they are the same colour that will be used to flag emails in the Messages List anyway. I rarely (OK, pretty much never) even look at the Accounts List once I've set it up (but then I only have four accounts set up in AquaMail, two of which get very few messages).

I spend most of my time in the Smart Folder, and the current corner-flags just don't seem noticeable enough - and being just at the top edge of one message they can also look very close to the bottom edge of the message above, which can also be easily misinterpreted at a casual glance. This applies even more so to the Widget version.

I had suggested a while back that it would be better if the Message List colours showed as full vertical bars (the whole height of the email item) but when I saw the new coloured background option I thought that would work perfectly within the Smart Folder to better differentiate messages from different accounts; yes, as another poster has said, you'd need to use fairly pastel colours, but not quite sure why that is a problem? It would be great to have that as an option anyway, i.e. Colour Labels, Coloured Backgrounds, or None.

André
Title: Re: 1.2.5.1
Post by: srt10coupe on September 13, 2013, 01:19:12 am
@André thx +1
Title: Re: 1.2.5.1
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on September 13, 2013, 01:24:51 am
Coloring items in the message list won't work -- the backgrounds are used to differentiate between read/unread messages.

Vertical bars? I don't know, maybe.

But it seems that a narrow vertical bar won't stand out much more than the current corner bits, am I wrong?
Title: Re: 1.2.5.1
Post by: srt10coupe on September 13, 2013, 01:33:40 am
yes to color the Message List with a complete background I had also pulled back . :-) it's to  much.

@Kostya are you tested background color for folder in Account list ;-).
Title: Re: 1.2.5.1
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on September 13, 2013, 01:41:54 am
@Andrew -- I'm not testing any features right now, busy with a "hotfix" release.
Title: Re: 1.2.5.1
Post by: someone on September 13, 2013, 03:25:18 am
I agree with andrewilley suggestions.
Title: Re: 1.2.5.1
Post by: beaky on September 13, 2013, 03:52:14 am
Coloring items in the message list won't work -- the backgrounds are used to differentiate between read/unread messages.

Vertical bars? I don't know, maybe.

But it seems that a narrow vertical bar won't stand out much more than the current corner bits, am I wrong?
I thought about a vertical bar, too, but if it is the same width as the triangle, it encroaches on the 'tick' mark below it. There is room to change the shape to make the triangle taller, maybe 50 to 100% taller, but I think they look fine on my 10" tablet.
I have coloured the accounts in different hues, but will probably change back to uncoloured, or maybe just use a pale colour to distinguish the account titles from the folder names. If these could be typographically different - such as bold, this would do just as well as colour for me. Having tried colours, they are not so important for me, but the little triangles *are* useful.
Just my two cents.
Title: Re: 1.2.5.1
Post by: Rachel Ambler on September 13, 2013, 04:32:31 am
@Andrew -- I'm not testing any features right now, busy with a "hotfix" release.

Sleep is just a five letter word for you, isn't it! I thought I was bad working a 12 hour day today but... :D

Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2

Title: Re: 1.2.5.1
Post by: srt10coupe on September 13, 2013, 10:05:06 am
i know have a 7 day and 11hour work time.
and more…?
Title: Re: 1.2.5.1
Post by: someone on September 13, 2013, 04:31:54 pm
Coloring items in the message list won't work -- the backgrounds are used to differentiate between read/unread messages.

Vertical bars? I don't know, maybe.

But it seems that a narrow vertical bar won't stand out much more than the current corner bits, am I wrong?
I thought about a vertical bar, too, but if it is the same width as the triangle, it encroaches on the 'tick' mark below it. There is room to change the shape to make the triangle taller, maybe 50 to 100% taller, but I think they look fine on my 10" tablet.
I have coloured the accounts in different hues, but will probably change back to uncoloured, or maybe just use a pale colour to distinguish the account titles from the folder names. If these could be typographically different - such as bold, this would do just as well as colour for me. Having tried colours, they are not so important for me, but the little triangles *are* useful.
Just my two cents.
I agree. It's really not so important.......
Title: Re: 1.2.5.1
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on September 13, 2013, 05:52:22 pm
@beaky:

Take a look in app settings under Account list, enable "Bold account names".

And before some asks for a setting to use Comic Sans... sorry, no :) :) :)
Title: Re: 1.2.5.1
Post by: beaky on September 13, 2013, 10:31:47 pm
I tried to reply to your post about setting account names in bold, but tapatalk tells me the thread or board is off limits or missing. Only applies to replies attempted to that message. I can reply to anything else. May be tapatalk bug, I don't know.

Anyway, yes I have now found the bold setting and have removed the account colours. To me it looks better. I am still using the corner markers.
Title: Re: 1.2.5.1
Post by: jcasares on September 15, 2013, 02:54:55 am
yes I've tested but I think 'corner color indicators' are better for the Accounts in Accounts list.
I do as well. It was one of the nice UI touches for AM.
I hopped to see more colors there. :(

I don't think message background coloring would work well but that's me. I prefer to keep white on black or black on white on message list and have the corner colored indicators.
Title: Re: 1.2.5.1
Post by: Rachel Ambler on September 16, 2013, 02:45:57 am
I tried to reply to your post about setting account names in bold, but tapatalk tells me the thread or board is off limits or missing. Only applies to replies attempted to that message. I can reply to anything else. May be tapatalk bug, I don't know.

Long long standing Tapatalk bug. First came across that issue over a year ago. Not sure if it's been fixed on TT4.

Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 4

Title: Re: 1.2.5.1
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on September 16, 2013, 02:56:42 am
FYI - I've just updated the Tapatalk plugin to latest version - 3.8.0.

Changelog:

https://support.tapatalk.com/threads/tapatalk-for-smf-plugin-release-announcement-and-changelog.4080/page-3