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English - Android => Development builds => Topic started by: Kostya Vasilyev on November 16, 2014, 02:22:05 am
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http://www.aqua-mail.com/download/AquaMail-market-1.5.1-25.4-dev7.1.apk
Mirror just in case:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ysd58v1xvtfyhcj/AquaMail-market-1.5.1-25.4-dev7.1.apk?dl=0
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+ Updated translations (thanks, everyone)
+ Theme / color / styling fixes here, there, and everywhere
+ Phone sized devices: when the action bar is at the top, and there is little room for icons, "select" and "refresh" will be hidden - use "pull to select" and "pull to refresh".
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+ Обновленные переводы
+ Мелкие исправления цветов, стилей, тем - там и сям.
+ Телефоны (не планшеты): когда панель иконок расположена сверху, и там мало места, то иконки "выделить все" и "обновить" будут скрыты. Используйте "потянуть чтобы выделить" и "потянуть чтобы обновить".
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I notice that the action buttons in the message list and when editing an email are now at the top of the screen and not at the bottom. Can you have an option to have the buttons remain at the bottom, as it facilitates one handed operation of the phone. Having the buttons at the top requires me to stretch my thumb further than it goes or to use 2 hands. Many thanks for a great program.
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I notice that the action buttons in the message list and when editing an email are now at the top of the screen and not at the bottom. Can you have an option to have the buttons remain at the bottom, as it facilitates one handed operation of the phone. Having the buttons at the top requires me to stretch my thumb further than it goes or to use 2 hands. Many thanks for a great program.
I guess there will be a conflict with the new FAB (Floating Action Button). This feature you can disable in app settings section 'Look and feel'.
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That worked. By disabling the floating button, the bottom buttons came back. Is there any way to have both?
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And what about our suggestion posted some time ago related to Pull to refresh all accounts on main app page?
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That worked. By disabling the floating button, the bottom buttons came back. Is there any way to have both?
As noted in my post before I think there is a conflict between "FAB" and "icons on the bottom" as both features are using the same area.
I am sure that Kostya is aware of this matter and is working on it for a solution...if there is ever a way to do this.
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Does anyone noticed the new swipe functionality "multi select" in the duo pane mode?
Now you can move several selected messages at once by drag and drop to another folder.
Thank you Kostya. Great thing :-)
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>> the action buttons in the message list and when editing an email are now at the top of the screen and not at the bottom
Yes.
>> Can you have an option to have the buttons remain at the bottom
No I can't. The "contextual action bar" (when you have something selected) shows in the location of "regular action bar" (when you don't have anything selected). It's an Android UI pattern, and it's Android system code drawing both. I can only move both up or down (on some devices, in some cases).
>> Pull to refresh all accounts
I'm starting to warm up to the idea, but it's only been a few days, and I'm the slowest developer in the world.
>> conflict between "FAB" and "icons on the bottom" as both features are using the same area
Correct.
>> Kostya is aware of this matter and is working on it for a solution
I'm not -- it's one or the other. FAB or icon bar along the bottom, except:
>> When your device will be upgraded to Android 5 Lollipop, your choice will be limited to FAB, since bottom icon bar is not supported by Android 5 specs
Correct, but I'll clarify further:
Bottom icon bar is not supported by the Android 5.0's native Material theme (with the new checkboxes and animations).
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=77632
Closed as "working as intended". Will not come back.
Aqua will use the native 5.0 Material theme for its "Juicy Colors" theme, so the FAB will always be enabled, and icon along the top (all one of them: search, ... and maybe the "three dots" overflow icon).
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This is Google's design direction, and it's "design" in the broad sense: how things look and how they work, what is and is not supported by system code.
This direction includes: more whitespace, fewer visible control elements (buttons, etc.), gestures rather than on-screen buttons, just to name a few things.
Has anyone noticed the recently added "pull to select"?
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>> Now you can move several selected messages at once by drag and drop to another folder
That's only been there for about two years, glad you noticed :)
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>> Now you can move several selected messages at once by drag and drop to another folder
That's only been there for about two years, glad you noticed :)
Hahaha Kostya,
You are perhaps the 'slowest developer on earth'... but I'm sure the' slowest user on earth '...
8)
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We are ready to wait for the greatest features ever developed.
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Correct, but I'll clarify further:
Bottom icon bar is not supported by the Android 5.0's native Material theme (with the new checkboxes and animations).
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=77632
Closed as "working as intended". Will not come back.
Aqua will use the native 5.0 Material theme for its "Juicy Colors" theme, so the FAB will always be enabled, and icon along the top (all one of them: search, ... and maybe the "three dots" overflow icon).
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This is Google's design direction, and it's "design" in the broad sense: how things look and how they work, what is and is not supported by system code.
This direction includes: more whitespace, fewer visible control elements (buttons, etc.), gestures rather than on-screen buttons, just to name a few things.
That does not sound good. Pity...
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>> That does not sound good. Pity
It seems questionable to me to, but neither you nor I are the ones making those decisions.
I'm going to keep using the old pre-5.0 Holo themes as the base for the old "light" and "dark" themes in Aqua, even when running on 5.0, so it will continue to be possible to turn off the floating action button and get icons along the bottom.
The Juicy Colors theme will use the native 5.0 Material theme, forcing the floating action button.
At least, and it's the most I can do, I'll be giving my users a choice.
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"Okay, Google..."
sorry:
"Okay, Kostya... " Maybe it could be a solution to use a "floating +" button to create a substitute for the bottom action bar to choose actions like compose, delete, mark read/unread, move to folder, ...
It's just an idea I got from the "new" Inbox by Gmail app
Update:
eventually the current FAB ("compose pen") could be replaced by this "floating +" button after selecting one or more messages in the message view list.
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Mikeone,
I approve this idea - previously discussed, you remember?
http://www.aqua-mail.com/forum/index.php?topic=2867.msg13002.msg#13002
Yes, I remember this discussion:
http://www.aqua-mail.com/forum/index.php?topic=2867.msg13002#msg13002
Maybe the "floating +" button could be THAT *one* Master button.
Update:
eventually the current FAB ("compose pen") could be replaced by this "floating +" button after selecting one or more messages in the message view list.
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@mikeone
Is this Android 5? I see no shadow under top bar. Could you please post some screenshots showing shadows in different positions (top bar, other bars, after scrolling, etc.)
Thanks in advance
No, sorry:
I'm still on Android 4.3 with my 'out of date' Galaxy S3
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Updated post:
http://www.aqua-mail.com/forum/index.php?topic=2993.msg13925#msg13925
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Mikeone,
I approve this idea - previously discussed, you remember?
http://www.aqua-mail.com/forum/index.php?topic=2867.msg13002.msg#13002
Yes, I remember this discussion:
http://www.aqua-mail.com/forum/index.php?topic=2867.msg13002#msg13002
Maybe the "floating +" button could be THAT *one* Master button.
Update:
eventually the current FAB ("compose pen") could be replaced by this "floating +" button after selecting one or more messages in the message view list.
Yes, that would work! It keeps all of the previous controls that had been located at the bottom near my thumb for continued one hand operation.
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>> Yes, that would work!
There are several reasons why it's not a good idea.
My fingers are sore from all the typing, so I'll try to keep it short.
Things are changing.
Google's new design (not just the visuals, the interaction patterns are changing).
The way Google imposes it on everyone in 5.0 by turning off features in the Material theme, and by changing approach to layout (more empty space, fewer things that can fit same area).
But really, just accept that it's not 2011 anymore, and things look and work different from before.
Don't ask me to create something monstrous, arbitrarily mixing visual and interaction patterns that are separated by several years.
For those who prefer things as they were, just don't use the new "Juicy colors" theme. The old ones, "light" or "dark" are still there and will continue to be.
Yes, it's a compromise - so I'm forcing you to choose.
If I worked at Google, I'd take that away being able to choose.
But I don't and never will, so I'm providing multiple options for you to choose from. Please don't lose sight of that.
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PS - I'm not entirely happy with this new Material Design thing, neither on the web, nor on Android. I find some things are annoying, some are broken, and some are downright unusable.
But I'm going on focus on moving forward.
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When I pull down on the left of the screen it selects ALL of the loaded mails. Is it supposed to work like this, or am I doing it wrong?
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>> When I pull down on the left of the screen it selects ALL of the loaded mails
It does exactly same thing as the "select all" icon / menu item.
Whether it's "all" or just visible on the screen: settings -> message list -> "Select All means..." -> visible vs. loaded
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i wan't change size and time color.
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And you really have to use a dark background in an otherwise light theme? :)`
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Yes, you don't have a dark material theme.
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Oh, that's horrible.
No dark theme with bright colors -- if there was one, I could collect some money from eye doctors :)
Ok, I will write it down, to provide a color setting.
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Oh my.
Not message threading, not push or contact sync for exchange, not even support for 5.0's native Material theme -- but being able to change the color of a small piece of text -- is what's "valuable" :)
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>> Playing with bold/color of date field will help us to wait in the meanwhile
Toys-R-Us for Android :)
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Btw you should add some info about pull to select, material theme and other great things to tutorial when user launches AquaMail for the first time.
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>> tutorial
Yes, I know. Including how to turn off the floating button.
And it has to a popup message because nobody reads the changelog (which is also a popup window, but alas, it's not *green*).
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>> Playing with bold/color of date field will help us to wait in the meanwhile
Toys-R-Us for Android :)
Thanks Kostya for your update:
http://www.aqua-mail.com/forum/index.php?topic=2999.msg13953#msg13953