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Title: AquaMail and Android Wear
Post by: dreamfast on November 18, 2015, 11:16:57 pm
Hello,
sorry, I am a German user and write only by Google translator.

I have a Huawei Watch with Android Wear and an Android Smartphone LG G3.

On the G3 Aqua Mail is installed as a full version. From this I get to the Huawei Watch sent the e-mails and can also read there far.

For longer emails but it is so, that is no longer displayed after a few lines of text.

After several attempts it turned out that this must be due to AqualMail because the same messages can be displayed completely via the GMail app.

This is known and is described here which can be optionally fixed in a Update?

If you need screenshots, then please inform me.

Best regards

Robbie
Title: Re: AquaMail and Android Wear
Post by: mikeone on November 18, 2015, 11:33:02 pm
If I understand your request correctly the problem is that email text will be shown only a few lines on the Huawei watch.
Title: Re: AquaMail and Android Wear
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on November 18, 2015, 11:49:03 pm
I just don't understand what it means to show emails "completely" on a 2" screen.

A smart watch is fine for short messages, or if you can get the idea from the first few lines (enough to decide what to do with a message) -- but expecting to read messages there in their entirety seems like a strange idea to me...
Title: Re: AquaMail and Android Wear
Post by: dreamfast on November 19, 2015, 06:04:50 pm
Hello und thanks for your answers,

whether now 2 inches or more does not really matter. On a SmartWatch you can not just read the news but also respond directly above it.

And in order to properly respond to, I need to know what is exactly so.

And you can read the text in full on a SmartWatch has the advantage that you do not always take the smartphone from his pocket and the text can also be read without attracting attention.

It's true, Smart Watches are not as widespread, but there is always more and more. And you can read the email text completely, and even the GMail app shows.

If such a function at Aqua mail is not possible or is inserted in the future, then I would have probably separated from Aqua Mail, unfortunately. So far I like always Aqua mail recommended in all Smartphone forums as the best mail app.
Title: Re: AquaMail and Android Wear
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on November 20, 2015, 12:57:56 am
There is a way to respond from the watch, and voice input is supported too.

But message text previews in notifications (on the phone or a smart watch) will remain limited, being previews.
Title: Re: AquaMail and Android Wear
Post by: dreamfast on November 22, 2015, 04:49:22 pm
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But message text previews in notifications (on the phone or a smart watch) will remain limited, being previews.

And why can I read text with the app GMail the complete mail? There is no limited text, I can read the full Mail text. So it has to go, only Aqua mail would need to be adjusted.
Title: Re: AquaMail and Android Wear
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on November 22, 2015, 04:56:54 pm
I'm not saying it could not be done.

I'm saying -- I don't understand the value, and don't think a watch can be made to operate like a phone does.

I see smart watches as *companion* devices to *phones*.

And then when you say that Gmail shows *complete mail*:

- What happens if message text is 50 kilobytes? 100 kilobytes? 500 kilobytes?

- What happens if message text has formatting? Bold, italic, font sizes? Tables?

- What happens if message text uses "responsive markup" (CSS media queries, based on screen size)?

Oh wait, Gmail ignores CSS media queries, but speaking of AquaMail -- should message text be fitted to the phone screen's width? to the watch's width (probably making it unreadable)?

- What happens if message text has embedded / linked images?

In view of the above, do you still think that a smart watch is just like a phone only smaller (but who cares, you have good eyesight)?
Title: Re: AquaMail and Android Wear
Post by: mikeone on November 22, 2015, 06:38:44 pm
Kostya, 
My request is to be able to read the full message text even in the phones notifications.
That should be possible with a small modification of AquaMail ...
... relax again. It was just a joke  8)
Title: Re: AquaMail and Android Wear
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on November 22, 2015, 08:10:40 pm
Re: read the full message text even in the phones notifications

Status bar notifications can't display text of arbitrary length.

Not to mention tables, CSS and images :)
Title: Re: AquaMail and Android Wear
Post by: dreamfast on November 22, 2015, 09:01:16 pm
OK; but I give it up. If you can not understand or comprehend it, which one also on a SmartWatch (at least the text) wants to read his full mails, it's how it is.
And since I apparently the only one here am currently who wants it, then it will probably interest you rather little.
Then remains for me still GMail.
Title: Re: AquaMail and Android Wear
Post by: StR on November 22, 2015, 09:03:29 pm
Not to mention tables, CSS and images :)

Kostya,  you can uuencode the images and show as plain text. 
 ;D
Title: Re: AquaMail and Android Wear
Post by: mikeone on November 22, 2015, 09:12:20 pm
Not to mention tables, CSS and images :)

Kostya,  you can uuencode the images and show as plain text. 
 ;D
Or just in beautiful binary code:
0010111010111011101011110...
Title: Re: AquaMail and Android Wear
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on November 22, 2015, 09:27:23 pm
What I'm saying is -- your definition of "full mails" is flawed.

So even if I show "more text just like Gmail" -- you or someone else will still be unhappy:

- Where is the formatting?

- Where are the tables?

- Why can't you open a link in a web browser?

- "Images missing in messages, help, help!!!"

- "Please see attached screenshot" -- "attachments are missing, help, help!!!"

And so on and so forth.

Title: Re: AquaMail and Android Wear
Post by: mikeone on November 22, 2015, 09:33:08 pm
And why can I read text with the app GMail the complete mail? There is no limited text, I can read the full Mail text. So it has to go, only Aqua mail would need to be adjusted.

OK; but I give it up. If you can not understand or comprehend it, which one also on a SmartWatch (at least the text) wants to read his full mails, it's how it is.
And since I apparently the only one here am currently who wants it, then it will probably interest you rather little.
Then remains for me still GMail.
@dreamfast
That's certainly no ignorance of users requests. But please accept that there are "technical" limitations. Kostya has this already explained - in detail and well-founded:
https://www.aqua-mail.com/forum/index.php?topic=4127.msg22245#msg22245

Thank you for your understanding.
Title: Re: AquaMail and Android Wear
Post by: dreamfast on November 22, 2015, 09:37:59 pm
@mikeone

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@dreamfast
Please accept that there are "technical" limitations. Kostya has this already explained - in detail and well-founded:
https://www.aqua-mail.com/forum/index.php?topic=4127.msg22245#msg22245

Do you have an Android Wear SmartWatch? If so, then test it yourself with GMail. If not, then please consider making you, because then you can not tell.
Title: Re: AquaMail and Android Wear
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on November 22, 2015, 10:10:50 pm
One more (last) time:

Yes, it's possible to change the app to show more message text on Wear watches.

But even if I do that, messages still won't show like they show on phones / tablets: formatting, wrapping, images, etc.

PS - yes, I own an LG Watch (original model).
Title: Re: AquaMail and Android Wear
Post by: mikeone on November 22, 2015, 10:28:01 pm
Here's an interesting article (in German language 8) ):

http://blog.inxmail.de/android-wear-e-mail-darstellung/

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..., sodass der Text der E-Mail größtenteils gelesen werden kann. Die Inhalte stammen aus dem HTML-Teil der E-Mail. Dabei werden alle Formatierungen, Bilder und Links entfernt und nur der darin enthaltene Text angezeigt.

Enthält die Nachricht im Hauptteil Inhalte, die von der Uhr nicht angezeigt werden können, z.B. komplexe Tabellenstrukturen oder unbekannte Zeichen, zeigt sie lediglich den Absendernamen und den Betreff an.

These are exactly the "technical" limitations which Kostya has pointed out in his previous post(s). No more and no less...
Title: Re: AquaMail and Android Wear
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on November 22, 2015, 10:52:46 pm
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These are exactly the "technical" limitations which Kostya has pointed out in his previous post(s). No more and no less...

And considering that the only German I know is "ich bin gail, komm zu mir, meine liebe"...

( someone taught me this years ago as a joke, and it stuck )
Title: Re: AquaMail and Android Wear
Post by: StR on November 23, 2015, 12:03:02 am
But even if I do that, messages still won't show like they show on phones / tablets: formatting, wrapping, images, etc.

I don't own any smart watch and haven't even had one in my hands yet. So, I do not qualify to make any judgment regarding how reasonable it is to read entire messages on a watch.
My comment is only about lack of images and formatting.
I am still reading and writing a large portion of emails in alpine, which can display only text.
Before getting my Android phone (about 3 years ago),, 90+% of my personal emails, and 60-85% of my business email were read in alpine.
Now, those numbers are about half of what they used to be.

But again, there,  the screen is 80x24.
Title: Re: AquaMail and Android Wear
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on November 25, 2015, 08:36:51 pm
StR -- think you should get a smart watch and run alpine there :)
Title: Re: AquaMail and Android Wear
Post by: StR on November 25, 2015, 10:17:08 pm
StR -- think you should get a smart watch and run alpine there :)
;D
I am afraid the keyboard for it will be a bit too large and heavy.  ;)
Title: Re: AquaMail and Android Wear
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on November 25, 2015, 10:23:07 pm
But then the keyboard could be used as a battery case to power the watch.
Title: Re: AquaMail and Android Wear
Post by: StR on November 26, 2015, 12:05:02 am
That's a great idea! You should patent it!

... and what are we going to do with that large microscope required to resolve 80x24 on the watch?
Title: Re: AquaMail and Android Wear
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on November 26, 2015, 12:44:23 am
Re: what are we going to do with that large microscope

If you can work this one out, we could apply for a *joint* patent (and then - KickStarter, here we come!)